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inb4 gaming performnce of AMD FX6300s destroyed by Pentium K that is a third/half of its price lol
If the pentiums get that good then there's no reason to get the more expensive, fully enabled chips and that'll suck real bad for revenue.
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If the pentiums get that good then there's no reason to get the more expensive, fully enabled chips and that'll suck real bad for revenue.

Pentiums don't have some instructions or Hyperthreading. It's pretty easy to make a niche chip great for overclocking and many games that's not really a general-threat to the i3 (which could encode video at speeds rivaling a pentium >1ghz faster using hyperthreading and avx2)
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Assuming you are a gamer I would wait for Skylake, not for broadwell if you're running 2500k.

Noones really highlighting this but it says 4ghz stock for the i7-4790k in that leak which is a nice jump for a refresh. Would be nice if some of that ~14% stock improvement on i7-4770k carries through to OC'ing.

Yeah, I'm a gamer. You think the 2500K will be good all the way till Skylake releases?
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Yeah, I'm a gamer. You think the 2500K will be good all the way till Skylake releases?
Probably. As long as you're not a 'max everything' sort of person. I'll hopefully be keeping my 2500k until Skylake.
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Probably. As long as you're not a 'max everything' sort of person. I'll hopefully be keeping my 2500k until Skylake.

Yeah, I don't try to max all settings on my games. As long as I can get better performance than my PS3 and PS4 on multiplat games that I buy on the PC, that is my biggest concern.
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It's a 100mhz increase - that's the single core turbo speed, 4770k's is 3.9ghz.

~2.5% increase, not 14%
It's referring to the stock, not turbo. It's specifically saying it's a true upgrade compared to the 100-200mhz bumps of the other refresh sku's and then calls out it will be the first to get a clock frequency of 4ghz.
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Devil’s Canyon will feature improved TIM and will actually be a true upgrade as compared to the above mentioned processors which are basically just architectural improvements and about 100 – 200 Mhz frequency bumps. The Core i7-4790K will be the flagship processor of the Haswell Refresh lineup and the first 22nm consumer CPU to obtain clock frequency of 4 GHz
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It's referring to the stock, not turbo. It's specifically saying it's a true upgrade compared to the 100-200mhz bumps of the other refresh sku's and then calls out it will be the first to get a clock frequency of 4ghz.

This can be read as "Devil’s Canyon will feature improved TIM and will actually be a true upgrade as compared to the above mentioned processors which are basically just architectural improvements" - it's a true upgrade because of better thermal interface

i remember checking and talking specifically about it just being +100mhz and turbo speed listed, but didn't check up recently. I may be wrong there, but either way i am of the opinion that intel raising the base clock and base voltage of the same silicon is pretty irrelevant - only other changes, such as expected overclocks or temperatures are worth mentioning
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This can be read as "Devil’s Canyon will feature improved TIM and will actually be a true upgrade as compared to the above mentioned processors which are basically just architectural improvements" - it's a true upgrade because of better thermal interface

i remember checking and talking specifically about it just being +100mhz and turbo speed listed, but didn't check up recently. I may be wrong there, but either way i am of the opinion that intel raising the base clock and base voltage of the same silicon is pretty irrelevant - only other changes, such as expected overclocks or temperatures are worth mentioning

Except the i7-4790 non K will already turbo to 4.0ghz with it's incremental 100mhz increase so the statement doesn't make much sense, as that will be out before the K version.
It's relevant that they would suddenly be able to bin the processor @ 4.0ghz instead of 3.5ghz and get a good yield, and hold the same TDP. I'll take it for no cost increase over the i7-4770k as I'm looking to upgrade from a core 2 duo anyway tongue.gif.
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Except the i7-4790 non K will already turbo to 4.0ghz with it's incremental 100mhz increase so the statement doesn't make much sense, as that will be out before the K version.
It's relevant that they would suddenly be able to bin the processor @ 4.0ghz instead of 3.5ghz and get a good yield, and hold the same TDP. I'll take it for no cost increase over the i7-4770k as I'm looking to upgrade from a core 2 duo anyway tongue.gif.

Well, TDP isn't power consumption - i7 and i5 both have the same TDP even though i7 uses like 15% more power. TDP on recent intel CPU's is more like "turbo frequency long-term power-limit" which even includes igpu power
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i5 users have bigger problems than waiting for Slylake. They have an i5. Someone has to tell them hyperthreading is an enormous boost on anything highly multithreaded. It's not just virtual threads, they physically split the cache, and it's 2MB more of it.

That being said, I wouldn't want to promote Intel's sales. Those mongrels have even shrinked their die sizes now that enjoy a practical monopoly.

Screw them, use any ancient processor if it works. thumb.gifbiggrin.gif
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