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Well, the average gamer should give the ~40 more (australia excluded) for an i7, if he has it, if he is a general gamer since many games now use 5-6 threads at least optimally.

Also the 770 vs the 290 is a silly comparison. The 770 is dead as a choice.

The 780 vanilla is still pretty good on many benchmarks.
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Well, the average gamer should give the ~40 more (australia excluded) for an i7, if he has it, if he is a general gamer since many games now use 5-6 threads at least optimally.

Also the 770 vs the 290 is a silly comparison. The 770 is dead as a choice.

The 780 vanilla is still pretty good on many benchmarks.

Well i'm talking about the market here, where i7 is £78 more (translates to $131 USD) and GPU costs are as follows:

~£170 for a 760

~£190-200 for an r9 280

approx: £235 for an aftermarket, 2gb 770

got 290 below £300 a couple times (aftermarket) and we have 290x reference + bf4 for £320

cheapest 780 is £380 for aftermarket on ocuk. Just talking current prices for 290 vs 780, 290 seems ~10-15% cheaper but there are less deals on 780's, i have not seen them dip nearly as low.

As far as i'm concerned, i7 user should be the niche rather than the majority. Most people don't benefit from HT - which among my peers at least, seems to be used most for the 20% clock for clock boost video encoding - but is that really useful enough to take a 100-200mhz hit to their overclock and pay the equivalent of $130 more?

That cost difference will buy you a 760 from a 750ti. A 770 from a 760 - a 290 from a 770, etc. It can bring down the price of your build (£162+95+40+50 for cpu+mobo+ram+cooling instead of £240+95+40+50 - a cost increase of ~22.4% for this, before GPU, PSU, Case and Storage) or just allow you to take a leap like this.

If you have use for it, good for you - but in a value build, you really need a solid reason to take it.

Like i said, if thermal limits were not a problem, it would be more attractive for quite a few more people - but still not a go-to CPU. It's an added bonus as long as it does not force you to make a significant sacrifice somewhere else in the build to meet a certain budget, for most people - but that's hard to do, given the large cost increase (78 GBP, the equivalent of 131 USD!)
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i5 users have bigger problems than waiting for Slylake. They have an i5. Someone has to tell them hyperthreading is an enormous boost on anything highly multithreaded. It's not just virtual threads, they physically split the cache, and it's 2MB more of it.

That being said, I wouldn't want to promote Intel's sales. Those mongrels have even shrinked their die sizes now that enjoy a practical monopoly.

Screw them, use any ancient processor if it works. thumb.gifbiggrin.gif

20% faster for 40% more money wasted.

I downgraded from a 5Ghz i7 3770K to 2.2Ghz Xeon E5 2620 to 4.2Ghz i5 2500K and it haven't made much difference.
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20% faster for 40% more money wasted.

I downgraded from a 5Ghz i7 3770K to 2.2Ghz Xeon E5 2620 to 4.2Ghz i5 2500K and it haven't made much difference.

You dont see many unlocked i5 owners complaining about bottlenecks.
Honestly dnt think I have seen any sandy bridge or newer i5 owner have any complaints about speed.
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20% faster for 40% more money wasted.

I downgraded from a 5Ghz i7 3770K to 2.2Ghz Xeon E5 2620 to 4.2Ghz i5 2500K and it haven't made much difference.

Let me guess. You only play one game. And it's old.
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Let me guess. You only play one game. And it's old.

No I watch Youtube videos. Yes, I need an i7 and R9 280X for youtube.
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No I watch Youtube videos. Yes, I need an i7 and R9 280X for youtube.

You could. There are ways to play them on 120FPS and with nice scaling algorithms.
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Should I wait for this or just get an Intel Core i5-4670K?
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post #89 of 114
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Should I wait for this or just get an Intel Core i5-4670K?

Hang on til june 2'nd if you're not delidding, IMO - or at least til we have info of how these perform.
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Hang on til june 2'nd if you're not delidding, IMO - or at least til we have info of how these perform.

If you'd feel sad if they came out with a new stepping and routinely clocked 200mhz higher while being 15c cooler, might as well hang on until you are sure that your dreams have been crushed yet again (yay bulldozer, ivy bridge and haswell)

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