Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Network Hardware › Can I install a network switch in-place of my ISP's router?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Can I install a network switch in-place of my ISP's router?

post #1 of 7
Thread Starter 
I was hopping someone can lend me some advise/suggestions in this matter.

I recently got bell fiber op in my house and they installed there own router (Its not a modem + router) in order to connect all the cable boxes and my PC to the system. The problem is that I have my own router I use for wireless/networking in my house, and bells router is causing problems when setting up my PC's static IP address. I was wondering if I could remove there (bells) router and put in a network switch or something similar in its place because I really don't need 2X routers in my network.
post #2 of 7
You should be able to replace their router with your router but you can't just use a switch. A switch doesn't know how to route traffic or assign IP configurations so you need a router to perform those functions.
Chibi
(12 items)
 
Arcturus
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3770s Gigabyte G1. Sniper M3 AMD 7850 AMD 7850 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
G.Skill Sniper Series low voltage OCZ Vertex 4 Max IOPS LG DVD Burner dual-layer LG Bluray Burner dual-layer 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Custom liquid Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Corsair AX650 Fractal Design Arc Mini 
CPUCPUMotherboardRAM
AMD Opteron 4386 AMD Opteron 4386 SUPERMICRO MBD-H8DCL-6F-O Crucial 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 SDRAM ECC Registe... 
Hard DriveOSCaseOther
Western Digital RE WD1001FYYG 1TB 7200RPM 32MB ... Windows Server 2008 R2 SUPERMICRO CSE-825TQ-R700LPB Black Adaptec RAID 2274200-R 7805 
  hide details  
Reply
Chibi
(12 items)
 
Arcturus
(8 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7-3770s Gigabyte G1. Sniper M3 AMD 7850 AMD 7850 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveOptical Drive
G.Skill Sniper Series low voltage OCZ Vertex 4 Max IOPS LG DVD Burner dual-layer LG Bluray Burner dual-layer 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Custom liquid Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Corsair AX650 Fractal Design Arc Mini 
CPUCPUMotherboardRAM
AMD Opteron 4386 AMD Opteron 4386 SUPERMICRO MBD-H8DCL-6F-O Crucial 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 1600 SDRAM ECC Registe... 
Hard DriveOSCaseOther
Western Digital RE WD1001FYYG 1TB 7200RPM 32MB ... Windows Server 2008 R2 SUPERMICRO CSE-825TQ-R700LPB Black Adaptec RAID 2274200-R 7805 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 7
Switches are for LANs.
Routers are for WANs.


A consumer "router" (or residential gateway) is generally a router + switch + wireless access point. Just turn off DHCP on your "routers" to make it just a switch + WAP.
Edited by DuckieHo - 4/21/14 at 9:06pm
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 7
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

Switches are for LANs.
Routers are for WANs.


A consumer "router" (or residential gateway) is generally a router + switch + wireless access point. Just turn off DHCP on your "routers" to make it just a switch + WAP.

I did what you recommended to the ISP router but its still acting as a strange DNS server which is chaining its address ever few minutes which is why I cant set up a static IP address threw it mad.gif
post #5 of 7
??
So Quiet
(16 items)
 
Router
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
5820K X99-A EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC GSkill Ripjaw V 4x8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB Noctua NH-D15S 10 EDU 2x Dell U2715H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm gunmetal and browns Cooler Master V850 Cooler Master XB EVO Logitech G403 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
TECKNET Fluance SX6  S.M.S.L SA-60 Intel PRO/1000 PT Quad Port 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E3-1225 V3 Gigabyte H81M-DS2V Crucial Ballistix Sport 2X2GB  Hitachi Deskstar 320GB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Cryorig M9i pfSense Capstone 450W Rosewill RSV-L4500 
OtherOther
Intel 9301CT Intel 9301CT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1225 V3 Asrock Rack C226 WS HD P4600 Crucial 16GB ECC  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial MX100  4 WD Red 2TB RAID 0+1 HGST Deskstar NAS 4TB Yep 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Stock Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard Seasonic 450RM Rosewill RSV-L4500 
Other
Intel PRO/1000 PT Quad Port 
  hide details  
Reply
So Quiet
(16 items)
 
Router
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
5820K X99-A EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SSC GSkill Ripjaw V 4x8GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB Noctua NH-D15S 10 EDU 2x Dell U2715H 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm gunmetal and browns Cooler Master V850 Cooler Master XB EVO Logitech G403 
Mouse PadAudioAudioOther
TECKNET Fluance SX6  S.M.S.L SA-60 Intel PRO/1000 PT Quad Port 
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
Intel Xeon E3-1225 V3 Gigabyte H81M-DS2V Crucial Ballistix Sport 2X2GB  Hitachi Deskstar 320GB 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Cryorig M9i pfSense Capstone 450W Rosewill RSV-L4500 
OtherOther
Intel 9301CT Intel 9301CT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Xeon E3-1225 V3 Asrock Rack C226 WS HD P4600 Crucial 16GB ECC  
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Crucial MX100  4 WD Red 2TB RAID 0+1 HGST Deskstar NAS 4TB Yep 
CoolingOSPowerCase
Stock Windows Server 2012 R2 Standard Seasonic 450RM Rosewill RSV-L4500 
Other
Intel PRO/1000 PT Quad Port 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by zaldrain View Post

I did what you recommended to the ISP router but its still acting as a strange DNS server which is chaining its address ever few minutes which is why I cant set up a static IP address threw it mad.gif

The device connected to the modem has to be a router....

If you turn off DHCP on the provided router, make sure your router is the first and only device that is hooked up to it.

Also, reboot your machines or refresh the network configs.

From your PC, try to access the default gateway. It should always be the router with DHCP still enabled.
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
Once again...
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 [4.28GHz, HT] Asus P6T + Broadcom NetXtreme II VisionTek HD5850 [900/1200] + Galaxy GT240 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaw X [1632 MHz] 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel X25-M 160GB + 3xRAID0 500GB 7200.12 Window 7 Pro 64 Acer H243H + Samsung 226BW XARMOR-U9BL  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Antec Truepower New 750W Li Lian PC-V2100 [10x120mm fans] Logitech G9 X-Trac Pro 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DuckieHo View Post

The device connected to the modem has to be a router....

If you turn off DHCP on the provided router, make sure your router is the first and only device that is hooked up to it.

Also, reboot your machines or refresh the network configs.

From your PC, try to access the default gateway. It should always be the router with DHCP still enabled.

Ya I got working now thanks, I may move my own router down stairs and connect it up to the modem and get a range booster or larger antenna or it as DEW suggested.

Thanks to you both thumb.gif
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Network Hardware
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Network Hardware › Can I install a network switch in-place of my ISP's router?