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Graphene is more affordable than silicone material wise, it's more expensive to bring fabs up to date. That's the difference. AMD doesn't own fabs they are free to pick and choose.

Intel could just use the hypothetical graphene fab also... I mean they could throw 3503533469326929x more money at a graphene fab than AMD could.

Just because Intel has it's own fab doesn't mean it couldn't use another one.

I want graphene to... but it's not going to be here for like another decade.

This announcement is probably beema/mullins
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A decade? you think it's that's close?
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Much happens in a decade, especially in the computer industry. Last thing I heard about graphene, was that they have created a chip made fully from graphene. Experimental stage, but it's getting there thumb.gif
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A decade? you think it's that's close?

Anything below 28nm and moore's law kicks in. IBM has Graphene chips out and who works with IBM, AMD. I agree it's not going to be graphene but it's close to reality.

Graphene was in major discussion in 2008-2009. 5 years later seems fitting. Needs more development.
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Anything below 28nm and moore's law kicks in. IBM has Graphene chips out and who works with IBM, AMD. I agree it's not going to be graphene but it's close to reality.

Graphene was in major discussion in 2008-2009. 5 years later seems fitting.

If it's a graphene chip that they present.... I will run through Calgary's busy downtown core, naked... not because I would be losing a bet... but out of sheer joy. biggrin.gif
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Not to pile onto the Jim Keller bandwagon, but I can *still* run the modern Internet (OK, not all of it, mind you smile.gif ) on my PWS 600au with a 600MHz 21164A. He's on a very short list.
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I'll just leave my old sig here, it wasn't out of "nowhere", stuff like this was posted by an AMD rep repeatedly on many different forums. Heck, do you remember the Bulldozer Blog is Live thread?
The problem was that people actually believed him, I wasn't one of those. wink.gif

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I was rooting for Bulldozer, it had been hyped as the fastest Single & Multithreaded core in history since 2007!

Those in denials defended JF-AMD and believed him like his word was Gospel. I on the other hand saw that all the leaked benches had one thing in common, plus looking at the module structure and the way he was describing it just wasn't adding up, so I kept questioning it.

I would've loved for Bulldozer to rain on Intel's parade, and crush Sandy Bridge because we NEED the competition.

I'm sorry that I turned out to be right, and the majority of AMD fans who waited turned out to be disappointed.

I'm a realist, and call it how it is, not how I wish it was.

Yeah unfortunately I was one of those who was calling you out saying you had some sort of agenda counterarguing everything the man said. A few years back I also sent you a private message apologizing for it. I was more sorry you were right than calling you out because we desperately need a true competitor in the CPU market.
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Anything below 28nm and moore's law kicks in. IBM has Graphene chips out and who works with IBM, AMD. I agree it's not going to be graphene but it's close to reality.

Graphene was in major discussion in 2008-2009. 5 years later seems fitting. Needs more development.

They aren't working with AMD that much. AMD is still IBM's competitor in the server market. I have prayed many nights that IBM would buy AMD. We'd have real competition then.


AMD is a paper tiger. Period. They exist for the sole reason to make sure that Intel in CPU and Nvidia in GPU are not monopolies. Sad but true.
 
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Yeah unfortunately I was one of those who was calling you out saying you had some sort of agenda counterarguing everything the man said. A few years back I also sent you a private message apologizing for it. I was more sorry you were right than calling you out because we desperately need a true competitor in the CPU market.
They aren't working with AMD that much. AMD is still IBM's competitor in the server market. I have prayed many nights that IBM would buy AMD. We'd have real competition then.


AMD is a paper tiger. Period. They exist for the sole reason to make sure that Intel in CPU and Nvidia in GPU are not monopolies. Sad but true.

IBM won't touch consumer market, it's too much in cost to do all that. AMD has used IBM plants to produce their consumer before chips. They are not a Paper Tiger, as long as they own their own IP they've got power and sway they can use their designs as they want.
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AMD is a paper tiger. Period. They exist for the sole reason to make sure that Intel in CPU and Nvidia in GPU are not monopolies. Sad but true.

This may be the reason it was founded or true in the past but I really dont believe that is the way the company views themselves today. That being said, we really haven't seen any products from the "new" AMD that was planned from start to finish under the "new" AMD. If AMD felt that way today, the new management would not be attracting the engineering talent that they are currently attracting.
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This may be the reason it was founded or true in the past but I really dont believe that is the way the company views themselves today. That being said, we really haven't seen any products from the "new" AMD that was planned from start to finish under the "new" AMD. If AMD felt that way today, the new management would not be attracting the engineering talent that they are currently attracting.

I'd like to think of AMD as a firm more than a manufacturing company. R&D firm. Intel and IBM own their own Firms they also own their own plants and other staff. The amount of money AMD is raking in as an engineering firm is outstanding!
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