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I'm looking to buy a monitor I'll never want to replace and these seem like likely candidates. I'm pretty sure the FW900 fits that description but its more sought so more expensive. The liyama 514 should be cheaper and has higher refresh rates but apparently the fw900's picture quality is Jesus.

I know they're both big heavy CRTs with high power consumption. I definitely want a CRT so please no recomendations for non CRTs. If there's a better or equally good CRT I'd love to hear about it.



can anyone tell me:

Is the fw900's picture quality amazing even to the someone who usually doesn't think about it?

How close is the 514? I'm mainly interested if the 514 gets blurry in motion because I've heard that the FW900 stays completely clear and blurring in movement is the one thing that's annoyed me when it comes to picture quality.



Can I play old consoles through the FW900's RGB slot with a simple RCA to RGB converter? The Liyama has no such capacity?


Anything else I should know?


Thanks if anyone has information or advice.
Edited by duckduckMOO - 4/23/14 at 7:05pm
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honest question: Why CRT?
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honest question: Why CRT?

Basically because I want the best monitor possible (I spend a lot of time on my computer I want it to be as nice as possible) but can't afford to pay more than a few hundred pounds. But even if I could get an equal LCD for the same price I really want 0 display lag and to a lesser extent no motion blur. I have a big sturdy desk with space so LCD size is irrelevant.
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I'm looking to buy a monitor I'll never want to replace and these seem like likely candidates. I'm pretty sure the FW900 fits that description but its more sought so more expensive. The liyama 514 should be cheaper and has higher refresh rates but apparently the fw900's picture quality is Jesus.

I'd choose the FW900 any day. First, it's widescreen, and second, it has a slightly lower pixel pitch in the center compared to the Iiyama (although the Iiyama has a reputation as a great crt).

Even a brand new FW900 won't last forever. If you get one in good condition you might get 5-10 years out of it though.

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Originally Posted by duckduckMOO View Post


Is the fw900's picture quality amazing even to the someone who usually doesn't think about it?

Yes, people who look at my units find them stunning when I show them high quality images or videos.
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How close is the 514? I'm mainly interested if the 514 gets blurry in motion because I've heard that the FW900 stays completely clear and blurring in movement is the one thing that's annoyed me when it comes to picture quality.

They're both CRTs so they don't have eye tracking based motion blur. As for picture quality, never used a 514.

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Originally Posted by duckduckMOO View Post

Can I play old consoles through the FW900's RGB slot with a simple RCA to RGB converter? The Liyama has no such capacity?

Not sure. The FW900 has a vga input and a BNC input. The latter has RGB component channels plus Vsync and Hsync.

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Anything else I should know?

Yes, if you get the FW900, you will need to learn how to calibrate it, as the black levels and color accuracy drifts over time. To do this, you'll need two pieces of hardware. A usb-ttl converter cable, and a DTP-94 (which is an old colorimeter ideal for calibrating trinitron displays). Both can be found on the bay. You'll also need a copy of WinDAS, which you can find online. If you choose to take these steps, there are people, including myself, who can guide you through the calibration process.

I also recommend going through the epic FW900 hardforum thread for more info. There's a guy on there who actually sells the units (for a price though!)


Thanks if anyone has information or advice.[/quote]
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I'd choose the FW900 any day.

So you're here too, Spacediver! wink.gif
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I'd choose the FW900 any day. First, it's widescreen, and second, it has a slightly lower pixel pitch in the center compared to the Iiyama (although the Iiyama has a reputation as a great crt).

Even a brand new FW900 won't last forever. If you get one in good condition you might get 5-10 years out of it though.
Yes, people who look at my units find them stunning when I show them high quality images or videos.

They're both CRTs so they don't have eye tracking based motion blur. As for picture quality, never used a 514.
Not sure. The FW900 has a vga input and a BNC input. The latter has RGB component channels plus Vsync and Hsync.
Yes, if you get the FW900, you will need to learn how to calibrate it, as the black levels and color accuracy drifts over time. To do this, you'll need two pieces of hardware. A usb-ttl converter cable, and a DTP-94 (which is an old colorimeter ideal for calibrating trinitron displays). Both can be found on the bay. You'll also need a copy of WinDAS, which you can find online. If you choose to take these steps, there are people, including myself, who can guide you through the calibration process.

I also recommend going through the epic FW900 hardforum thread for more info. There's a guy on there who actually sells the units (for a price though!)


Thanks if anyone has information or advice.
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Thanks for the info. Unless someone comes on and raves about the 514 I think I'll go for the fw900.


that thread is 500 pages!
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Thanks for the info. Unless someone comes on and raves about the 514 I think I'll go for the fw900.


Where are you getting an FW900?
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Where are you getting an FW900?

"Go for the fw900" means checking ebay and craigslist for the next few months. If I see three 514s before I see one fw900 I'll probably get the 3rd 514. So it's more a matter of when. There was one on ebay uk the other day for £600 buy it now with best offer available. I was gonna make a much lower offer with 2 or 3 days left but someone bought it already.
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