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So Postal, as an ISP you would rather that the FCC classify ISPs as utilities?

I am sure it wouldn't be the end of the world...most utilities are still regular companies...they are just regulated. It would probably be a good thing for smaller ISPs.
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Thats incorrect. Also South Korea has one of the best internet infrastructures albeit, you have definite oversight of what you can and cant do easily.
Yeah obviously south Korea has some of the best internet in the world, but I am talking about Japan. I've always heard the reason everyone goes to cafes there is because internet is expensive and not widespread. Also why so few people game on PC there compared to the rest of Asia.

It's been a few years since I've been there, but it seemed pretty good to me. The one thing I did notice was the near complete lack of public wifi. During the big tsunami people were massing at Apple stores because they were some of the few areas that Internet service could be found.

However, Japan was listed number 3 for having the best Internet in the world by Bloomberg
, though I am sure it all depends on where you go. Even Ethiopia has some really great Internet in some cities.
Edited by Vagrant Storm - 4/24/14 at 10:58am
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No, we're crying foul because Tom Wheeler backed away completely from earlier statements shortly after that ruling saying he would not do what he's now proposing.

Read post 37, and the link provided.

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After responding to an official petition (which I signed) stating that they were in support of net neutrality:

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MY ASS.

What a difference two months (and likely some heavy industry lobbying) makes, eh?

heres the thing, seems he is backpedalling
http://rt.com/usa/154628-fcc-wheeler-denies-reports/
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Tom Wheeler, a former cable industry lobbyist-turned-FCC chairman, wrote on the agency’s official blog on Thursday that those latest reports are brimming with “a great deal of misinformation” that will be clarified later in the day when the draft Open Internet Notice of Proposed Rulemaking in question is officially circulated among the commission.

Wheeler gave no indication of when the FCC will release those proposed rules to the public, however, but in his latest blog post he claims that the earlier reports were highly inaccurate.

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I just wrote a letter to my U.S. Senator about this, see what happens! Need to follow up with my House of Representatives guy too.
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Move to Mars and form a new gov based off limited resources and a thing called common sense? tongue.gif
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No, EVERYTHING, the entire plant, from door to web - a utility.

Where would the competition that the market would need to keep things efficient and affordable in that arrangement come from?

I would think that the arrangements power companies have with suppliers and generation fees and local coop buying groups would be a bit of a mess when applied to something like the intrawebs.
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Where would the competition that the market would need to keep things efficient and affordable in that arrangement come from?

I would think that the arrangements power companies have with suppliers and generation fees and local coop buying groups would be a bit of a mess when applied to something like the intrawebs.

Why would applying similar regulations that the power company has to follow be a mess to the Internet? They are both services that everyone pretty much needs and uses, and if you look at the market structures they are rather similar. In both situations what you typically see in a given area is one or two options, in some rare situations a third option....

As it is right now there is essentially zero competition with ISPs, so technology is stagnating, services while technically trending up in speed, are still far behind other countries. Big difference between the internet infrastructure in our country versus others is regulation and status. Many other countries, especially ones with advanced networks, have regulations and government funding that provides subsidization.
    
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They are both services that everyone pretty much needs and uses, and if you look at the market structures they are rather similar.
+1 Went to apply for jobs one day, a majority of them said: "You can find the application online"
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I really like when Obama said if insurance is too much cancel your cable bill. Cable = Internet in most cases.

Man A walks into a store, Man A asks to fill out employment, Man A gets told to do it online. Online today is just as vital as health insurance, because without it you're not getting any jobs or work for that health insurance. Unless he wants to fix how anti-social the job market has become, Obama needs to shut up and listen to his people.

I really think the rich want to bring about disparity. It just sickens me, you want a better strong nation you need to see how the lowest of your population lives and improve it's standard, not at their cost but yours. Anyway it's their fault why the economy is collapsing and farms are closing, and schools are shutting down. They are getting wealthier and everyone is getting poorer.

We as a nation have taken way too much shortcuts in running this nation to supposedly make it easier to run. For example before it was up to us to vote if we pay raise government officials, but now all they need is another government official and they can just pay raise to infinity. We divided and sold out our government departs to private sectors and now while they thrive the government doesn't. All because it was stated to be a monopoly. If you build a government and let it control it's utilities the rates would never be astronomical, and look where the medical industry has gone! It's all a sham! Corporatism and democracy is self destructive! Implosive on it's self. I prefer Aristotle's expression of Deviant and Correct government structures, we need to go back to being a Polity. If there is ever corruption in Polity we'd have that power to snub it out.
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Well, since I can't say anything about the law because laws are passed by politicians and politicians are political and politics are against the rules here on OCN, I guess I will just say ...

After many decades of being alive, this doesn't surprise me in the least.
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