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This will allow the average law abiding person to see a reduction in bills and an improvement in service quality as the heavy users shoulder the higher costs.

I literally fell out of my chair laughing. Do you seriously think prices will drop? Or service will improve?

That being said. For once I'm glad to be out in the sticks with sad internet. I got nothin to lose by all this anyway. In the end I agree it should be a utility. Pay for what you use. I don't see why people have a hard time with that. But lowering bills and better service... That is comical at best. If anything they will find a way to increase the bills.
 
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Originally Posted by Tadaen Sylvermane View Post

I literally fell out of my chair laughing. Do you seriously think prices will drop? Or service will improve?.

I suggest you adjust your sarcasm meter and re-read my post. wink.gif
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I literally fell out of my chair laughing. Do you seriously think prices will drop? Or service will improve?

That being said. For once I'm glad to be out in the sticks with sad internet. I got nothin to lose by all this anyway. In the end I agree it should be a utility. Pay for what you use. I don't see why people have a hard time with that. But lowering bills and better service... That is comical at best. If anything they will find a way to increase the bills.

He was being sarcastic. ^ sniped

I have time warner and I hate them. I don't even get my real download/upload speeds. I have 2.5 up but can only stream at 1.4/1.5 before it messes up. Speedtest says 2.2 at the highest. normally 1.6. I think the first week it said 2.5 maybe rolleyes.gif Don't get me started on download..
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OK.

This is a good idea as it allows ISPs to set fair usage charges for heavy users, such as people who stream lots of hours of TV, play online games or pirate movies. This will allow the average law abiding person to see a reduction in bills and an improvement in service quality as the heavy users shoulder the higher costs.

The extra revenue from content providers will promote a competitive market, ensuring quality content for everyone whilst allowing ISPs to invest in and improve their infrastructure.

This will in no way negatively affect the internet. It will not allow ISPs to essentially kill selected content providers whilst promoting their own services, be they either cable or streaming. It will in no way stifle innovation by setting high entry costs for new companies and content providers. The extra money will absolutely be used to improve the infrastructure, not go to ISP board members and shareholders. The ISPs will in no way use this as any kind of excuse to increase subscription fees.

We have to trust the ISPs to act in our benefit, after all they have in the past.


When I first started reading this I was .....

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Then I got into it more and was......

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Well played sir, well played.
    
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Originally Posted by Tadaen Sylvermane View Post

I literally fell out of my chair laughing. Do you seriously think prices will drop? Or service will improve?

That being said. For once I'm glad to be out in the sticks with sad internet. I got nothin to lose by all this anyway. In the end I agree it should be a utility. Pay for what you use. I don't see why people have a hard time with that. But lowering bills and better service... That is comical at best. If anything they will find a way to increase the bills.

His post was obviously sarcastic. But I did find myself chuckling as well biggrin.gif.
 
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I know for a fact the people of America will do nothing. That why ISP take advantage of them...
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Actually the court just said they didn't like the wording. Requested the FCC to redraft it in different terminology and appeal...Obviously the FCC took that as we lost and decided to be complete cowards by reversing their stance on the subject.

After responding to an official petition (which I signed) stating that they were in support of net neutrality:

Source
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In its Verizon v. FCC decision, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
invited the Commission to act to preserve a free and open Internet. I intend to accept that invitation by
proposing rules that will meet the court’s test for preventing improper blocking of and discrimination
among Internet traffic, ensuring genuine transparency in how Internet Service Providers manage traffic,
and enhancing competition. Preserving the Internet as an open platform for innovation and expression
while providing certainty and predictability in the marketplace is an important responsibility of this
agency.

MY ASS.

What a difference two months (and likely some heavy industry lobbying) makes, eh?
Edited by Mand12 - 4/23/14 at 5:12pm
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Yea, pretty "depressed" over this....

It will only be a matter of time before you start seeing the "Youtube, Facebook, Netflix" package on Internet services. ISPs will absolutely do what television providers have down with their "packages".......
    
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This is flat out terrible and the worst thing to happen to the internet in the US if this goes through. The internet will be ruined as we know it all because of greed. No other reason or whatever ISP's want to claim.

I can't believe the FCC did a flat 180 on what they were trying to do. I wonder how much of a pay out they got from a lobbyist.
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Since I tend to be the resident anti-FCC person, here is a bit of info on the guy who is drafting this. No surprises to be had I am sure.......

http://www.fcc.gov/leadership/tom-wheeler

This just highlights my long standing rant on why our FCC is worthless and just a tool to be used by major telecoms. Wheeler and his friends stand to benefit HUGELY from this action....

The dude is a shill from the telecom world!

EDIT:

Now my ISP rant......

This has the potential to destroy smaller ISPs in the world, further limiting options for the consumer with a potential end result of having only a handful of huge companies to get your internet from.

How?

If my Fiber provider for my back-bone as an ISP decides they want to start throttling Netflix traffic across their T1 network, because Netflix isn't paying them enough, guess who gets the phone call from MY customers when their service is crap because of this?

I do.

The customer isn't going to care why their Netflix is streaming like crap, they won't care that it isn't due to my network but the larger Fiber network out in the world. They will simply go to the competitor in an attempt to resolve the problem.

I....I just can't understand the reason to do this, it literally is going to murder the internet!

the thing is in the eyes of these __________ they dont care if the internet dies as long as they can milk more money out of you and the companies that support it. its all about money and getting it
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