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No, we're crying foul because Tom Wheeler backed away completely from earlier statements shortly after that ruling saying he would not do what he's now proposing.

Read post 37, and the link provided.

I know a few people in the FCC, believe me, get up to date updates on this stuff.

That being said, they've "reversed" their stance because it's all they CAN do in the interim.

You have to understand this from their perspective. It was lobbied for MONTHS AND MONTHS that changes would be coming, that revisions would be made...Net neutrality was coming...And then they got shut down. Then the Verizon case happened.

Are they hypocrites? Absolutely but, they kind of have to be where they stand.

Most of you see this from the customer perspective and that's fine but, when you look at this situation from the business perspective, it gets an entirely different light.
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Swap out Telco for your local ISP.

EDIT:

Imagine paying $5 a month to access OCN
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I know a few people in the FCC, believe me, get up to date updates on this stuff.

That being said, they've "reversed" their stance because it's all they CAN do in the interim.

You have to understand this from their perspective. It was lobbied for MONTHS AND MONTHS that changes would be coming, that revisions would be made...Net neutrality was coming...And then they got shut down. Then the Verizon case happened.

Are they hypocrites? Absolutely but, they kind of have to be where they stand.

Most of you see this from the customer perspective and that's fine but, when you look at this situation from the business perspective, it gets an entirely different light.

Perhaps, but if one of their six goals is really
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"All Americans should have affordable access to robust and reliable broadband products and services. Regulatory policies must promote technological neutrality, competition, investment, and innovation to ensure that broadband service providers have sufficient incentives to develop and offer such products and services."

They are doing a great job at upholding it. I'm Glad the FCC was created to protect businesses and not customers. I was almost fooled into thinking they where supposed to prevent customers from getting screwed over by large companies!
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I know a few people in the FCC, believe me, get up to date updates on this stuff.

That being said, they've "reversed" their stance because it's all they CAN do in the interim.

You have to understand this from their perspective. It was lobbied for MONTHS AND MONTHS that changes would be coming, that revisions would be made...Net neutrality was coming...And then they got shut down. Then the Verizon case happened.

Are they hypocrites? Absolutely but, they kind of have to be where they stand.

The link I provided is the FCC chair's statement AFTER the Verizon case. Which he has now completely reversed.

They do have the authority to ensure net neutrality. The chair said so, specifically, in his response to the Verizon case. He's now choosing not to.
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VOTERS GET WHAT THEY ASK FOR.

A large, bureaucracy driven, unwieldy Government that regulates based on lobbying interests, instead of the good for all.

Some of you screaming 'OMG' about this FCC ruling should look to how you voted. This IS what government does when it grows unchecked.
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The link I provided is the FCC chair's statement AFTER the Verizon case. Which he has now completely reversed.

They do have the authority to ensure net neutrality. The chair said so, specifically, in his response to the Verizon case. He's now choosing not to.

Which is precisely what I commented on.

They have the authority but, NOT THE STANDARDS.

The FCC's internet standards and regulations are built for Dial-Up - That's a well known fact, in fact that's this point I'd call it CO.

Dial-up standards to not meet the modern day infrastructure, let alone allow them to police modern day ISP's.

Postal and I have discussed this at length. Getting a visit from the FCC is akin to passing a gallstone. It's a horrific process because the standards by which we're governed in regards to the internet, are archaic and significantly lacking.

So no, actually, they do not have the standards to govern via authority. Again, we've discussed this for MONTHS.

They're a modern day police agency governing with pre-depression laws. They can't actually do a damn thing.

Full picture this and it actually becomes very clear why the chair reversed his decision and why they've changed their stance.

Again, polar opposite viewpoints that exist for real world reasons.
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They have the authority but, NOT THE STANDARDS.

I get it.

But they have the authority to make better standards.
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VOTERS GET WHAT THEY ASK FOR.

A large, bureaucracy driven, unwieldy Government that regulates based on lobbying interests, instead of the good for all.

Some of you screaming 'OMG' about this FCC ruling should look to how you voted. This IS what government does when it grows unchecked.

Please do tell us who we can vote for that isn't just as corrupted as the next guy? I'm waiting.

You vote for A or for B and you will bend over either way.

So sick of this "you voted for him" argument. No matter which party you vote for you are screwed. This 2 party system is broken beyond repair, yet people STILL follow their party so blindly. Ignorant sheeple of America.
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I get it.

But they have the authority to make better standards.

They really actually don't.

Renewing standards in a Gov't agency is not only a lot of politics, it takes years and years of re-design...Not only that but, a full-fledged audit/revision of new standards...

We're at least 3-4 years out from anything solid.

So, in the interim they can either fight the process in it's entirety and lose complete control over the situation OR they can "give in" and control it with some moderation/control while they revitalize.

Keep your friends close...
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I can only hope for massive outlash and constant pressure on the FCC to change their ways.
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