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Pretty straight forward, if I OC at all it actually does worse. And it seems to be terrible on 14.4 driver even more. In BF4 on stock with 13.12 driver I get 80ish fps in DX11 but on 14.4 I hardly get the same on Mantle. At the same time overclocking on 13.12 results in worse performance than stock 1030/1250. What can I do? I increased voltage but nothing seems to help the situation. I was doing 1100/1250 on +50% limit +30mV and I increased it up to 50mV and still no dice. I never had experience with a GPU that throttles like this.

On another note, if you reset the GPU in MSI AB it auto sets it to +25mV for some reason.


Edit: Totally thought I put this in the OC software section. If a mod could move it please.
Edited by heroxoot - 4/23/14 at 9:21pm
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It could be that it is throttling due to temps ?? What fan profile are you running ?? Does your case have enough airflow ??
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what are your temps? on a side note, the r9 290x lightning is actually the only one worth buying since its designed to not throttle.
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Most Hawaii parts have very little headroom in demanding tests. Stock clocks, with a significant undervolt, is still enough to exceed rated TDP in tests like OCCT or Furmark, and not by a small margin.

Anyway, most games are no where near as demanding, and you'd have to have a real lemon to throttle in BF4 with the power limit slider at +50%.

If you run into throttling, do not increase voltage, you'll throttle worse. More voltage = more total power draw = TDP and thermal limits reached sooner. You do not increase voltage to reduce throttling, you reduce voltage.
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On another note, if you reset the GPU in MSI AB it auto sets it to +25mV for some reason.

Because the factory OC in your card's BIOS tells it to run 25mv over the stock VID of the silicon.
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did you check vrm temps ?
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All temps are low. VRM temps below 60c. Maybe its just me but it really seemed like it did better with the OC off. Its like BF4 won't put this GPU under load when I play so I get no frame rate. In Heaven I averaged 60fps almost with the OC.

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Open battlefield 4 running mantle, and have afterburner open in the background. With the card at stock just run around a bit and see if the core clock is staying stable. If it is, then close battlefield, overclock, and open it again. If the core clock is jumping around all crazy in the 900s then you are going past the power limit.

IMO it could be 2 things:

CCC is messing with your overclock settings; I would recommend just disabling AMD overdrive.

Or,

Bad driver install is causing it to do that... all versions of the beta drivers up until 14.4 had a glitch with the power limit and would cause this exact symptom; so if those drivers left remnants maybe that's what is causing it....

Good luck man.
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This is my benchmark on 14.2 beta 13 ( last driver I had good results with) with no OC and its literally better by a small margin.
stock Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Bout to run it again with my OC with +44mV see if it does better. Since it starts at +25mV I'm going to push it up a bit for 1100/1250 even tho it seems like stock 1030 runs fine on +0mV as it does on +25.

Ok with 1100/1250 +44mV 50% power limit.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
fmN7DmF.png

Maybe its just BF4 at fault? The GPU got to 86c but averaged 85c and the VRM got to 70c and stayed pegged. Not sure how safe that VRM temp is but it doesn't seem too bad.

I also really wish I could change my fan settings because it could stay a little cooler if the fan ran higher than 70ish.
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Quote:
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This is my benchmark on 14.2 beta 13 ( last driver I had good results with) with no OC and its literally better by a small margin.



Bout to run it again with my OC with +44mV see if it does better. Since it starts at +25mV I'm going to push it up a bit for 1100/1250 even tho it seems like stock 1030 runs fine on +0mV as it does on +25.

yea dude, every single driver in between 13.12 and 14.4 have had a power limit bug for Hawaii cards (maybe just 290x's). The power limit slider does absolutely nothing on those drivers and is why you will throttle.

The only way to not throttle on those drivers is to leave everything at stock.
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Thanks for that info. I updated my post with a new benchmark and it got some improvement and the clocks never fluctuated. Is there a driver that can solve this or am I screwed with my GPU for now on OCing?
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