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Originally Posted by Sgt Bilko View Post

Probably because of this: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/announcing-the-geforce-gtx-titan-z
It's a bit on the expensive side for most people but grats to the crazy nutters that buy it tongue.gif

One short mention in a blog vs. 20 minutes of NV's CEO taling about artists, scientists, compute, simulations, etc. still should give you a pretty clear picture what this thing is for.

Not saying that it's a good deal for anything but 98% of the marketing for the thing has been for the compute crowd.
 
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post #32 of 171
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I still don't see why people think it's mainly for gaming. Yes it has the Geforce monicker, but even Nvidia themselves advertised it as a compute-card when they revealed it during the GTC conference (which I attended). Never once did they even mention gaming during the whole annoucement and they continued to give examples of a single TitanZ card that could compete with servers that had multiple Quadros installed.

But if you can afford to buy this beast just to use it for gaming, then props to you for being a straight up baller. thumb.gif

Oh?
From Nvidia themselves...
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GeForce GTX TITAN Z is a gaming monster, built to power the most extreme gaming rigs on the planet. With a massive 5760 cores and 12 GB of 7 Gbps GDDR5 memory, TITAN Z gives you truly amazing performance—easily making it the fastest graphics card we’ve ever made.

This is a serious card built for serious gamers. TITAN Z is designed with the highest-grade components to deliver the best experience – incredible speed and cool, quiet performance—all in a stunningly crafted aluminum case.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/announcing-the-geforce-gtx-titan-z
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Originally Posted by bmgjet View Post

2999 USD = 3491.1359 NZD
+ 15% gst
4014.81NZD

Excluding customs fees, shipping and retailers cut.

MSRP includes retailers cut...I believe.
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post #33 of 171
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One short mention in a blog vs. 20 minutes of NV's CEO taling about artists, scientists, compute, simulations, etc. still should give you a pretty clear picture what this thing is for.

Not saying that it's a good deal for anything but 98% of the marketing for the thing has been for the compute crowd.

Yea, but even you must admit that marketing this card to consumers @ $3k is a hard pill to swallow. Yes, he did talk about all the things above, but it still retains the "Titan" moniker, which means it's a consumer product. If this card was sold for $2k (the price of two Titan Blacks), it would sell for sure. However, $3k is just insane.
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Incomparable results. It is obvious that they tested the cards in a different scenario than you did. Even the 780 Ti SLI setup scored 58 fps in that benchmark. Titan Z is priced like two of these cards and will perform significantly slower. Both setups will cost $3000, the only thing that is the R9 295X2 CrossFire will steamroll the Titan Z. Both are overpriced but you must look at it from $3000 vs $6000 SLI/ CF setup.
Still for people who are not space limited SLI 780 Ti's or 290X's are much better IMO. Value goes to 780 SLI or 290 CF.
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Incomparable results. It is obvious that they tested the cards in a different scenario than you did. Even the 780 Ti SLI setup scored 58 fps in that benchmark. Titan Z is priced like two of these cards and will perform significantly slower. Both setups will cost $3000, the only thing that is the R9 295X2 QuadFire will steamroll the Titan Z. Both are overpriced but you must look at it from $3000 vs $6000 Quad setup.
Still for people who are not space limited SLI 780 Ti's or 290X's are much better IMO. Value goes to 780 SLI or 290 CF.

And that's really the point, isn't it? The R9 295x2 is no value winner, but compared to the Titan Z, it's a steal for the amount of performance you get.

Look, I love nvidia. I own a GTX 780, and it's an incredible card, both for performance and from an engineering standpoint. I think Nvidia has lost their marbles, though. Either they were not expecting the R9 295x2, or they think they are untouchable. As far as the latter point goes, that's simply not true, and the R9 295x2 proves it.
Edited by Mad Pistol - 4/24/14 at 7:14am
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post #36 of 171
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One short mention in a blog vs. 20 minutes of NV's CEO taling about artists, scientists, compute, simulations, etc. still should give you a pretty clear picture what this thing is for.

Not saying that it's a good deal for anything but 98% of the marketing for the thing has been for the compute crowd.

I know what it's for, I'm just saying that people who didn't watch that stream and only see things like that on Nvidia's own page will only think it's a gaming card.
 
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And that's really the point, isn't it? The R9 295x2 is no value winner, but compared to the Titan Z, it's a steal for the amount of performance you get.

Look, I love nvidia. I own a GTX 780, and it's an incredible card, both for performance and from an engineering standpoint. I think Nvidia has lost their marbles, though. Either they were not expecting the R9 295x2, or they think they are untouchable. As far as the latter point goes, that's simply not true, and the R9 295x2 proves it.
Nvidia haven't lost their marbles. if people can buy $1000 graphics cards, why wont they buy a $3000 card?

Nvidia is a business after all. Blame the people who spent $1000 for 30% improvement and thought it was the best in the world.
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@ 4k, the R9 295x2 is faster than Dual 780 Ti's in SLI..

I do not think.
at most, in those 3 games (bioshock, Crysis 3, BF4) must be equal.

and r9 295x2 costs 1500 -1600€

780 TI sli will you do it with 1060 -1100€
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I know what it's for, I'm just saying that people who didn't watch that stream and only see things like that on Nvidia's own page will only think it's a gaming card.

Saying Titan-z snt for gaming is like saying every dual graphics that ever made was not for game.

That's really a slow argument to justify price...
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Quad-fire scaling has never been good, and dual R9 295x2's is no exception.



I agree
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