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League of Legends is only fun when you have absolutely nothing else to play, I've said this several times around friends of mine that are die-hard LoL players, and they will agree with me on that. Some people unfortunately go so long without picking up a new game due to financial constraints that they brainwash themselves into thinking it's actually a good or "deep" game. But I guarantee you drop an actual good game into their lap and they will forget all about LoL, at least until they're done with that game. I have nothing against competitive gaming, but I really hate LoL and the whole e-sport following it's gaining. Thanks to all the digital sales that are going on now, I've got myself a big enough backlog of games to play that I'll never have to go back to that cesspool.

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I enjoy playing League of Legends because of how competitive and team based it is.

When I first saw people playing it, I thought "There's no way I could get into that game no matter how hard I try" but after about a week of playing with friends, I was hooked. Now i've been playing League of Legends for about a year and it's the game I spend a majority of my time playing...no doubt.

All of my friends who've now converted to League of Legends had the exact same thought of "There's no way I could get into that game" UNTIL they actually start playing. I had a friend who was a huge Call of Duty bro and would never play anything else, but now he completely dropped COD and almost exclusively plays LoL.
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For quite some time I've been trying to understand what is up with the popularity of MOBA games and why are they so popular and mostly, how did this become the most played/popular genre for eSports.

I've even been forcing myself to play Dota2 for the past few days, trying to get a good view at how this became so popular... And yet I still do not see it or understand it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's a bad game or something, or that it can't be fun but this popular? I can't imagine how - the slow pace, one game session is way too long and the first half of it is basically getting the last shot on the creeps (speaking Dota2 here), which imo is extremely boring. Then there's PvP, sure, that can be fun, but again it mostly boils down to who grinded the most last shots, bought the best gear and learned the abilities of others. As for the actual combat.. not very appealing due to slow pace and click to move - strategy type of game - movement.

I know everyone has their own taste in games and I'm one of the people that try A LOT of games and I'm really really not picky - so I thought I'm sure I'll be able to notice at least what others see in MOBA games... but I didn't.

Neither do I understand how this genre became a standard for "pro gaming", looking at what used to be the standard (Quake 3, CS, etc). Sure it takes some skill to play, but it's mostly knowledge. It's knowing the ability of your hero and the abilities of your enemies. But that is knowledge, not skill (I count hand motorics, reflexes, etc as skill) - IMO.

I was always able to notice what made games popular, even if I didn't find the game good myself. But this time I'm giving up, I do not understand how MOBA is so popular. I'm going to just put my MOBA popularity theory as "casualization", due to the way MOBAs are played in the sense that they require more knowing and less skilling.

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You seem to really lack understanding of the game at an fundamental level if you think its slow paced and does not require good reflexes. Have you ever actually played against a good player? When playing against an skilled opponent in DOTA2 or LoL its really comes down to reflexes and split second decisions every bit as much as general knowledge.

Even in the laning phase its most certainly not just last hitting creeps. Good players are poking/dodging, trying to gain the upper hand and its an delicate dance that takes a great deal of skill.

As for why its so popular as an e-sport. Well for one its easy to spectate thanks to the top down view, the longer match time generally means one match will have more interesting events and in general lends it self to more complex long term strategies. Its also in many ways more of an team sport then quake or CS adding in another dimension to the spectating.
    
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You seem to really lack understanding of the game at an fundamental level if you think its slow paced and does not require good reflexes. Have you ever actually played against a good player? When playing against an skilled opponent in DOTA2 or LoL its really comes down to reflexes and split second decisions every bit as much as general knowledge.

Even in the laning phase its most certainly not just last hitting creeps. Good players are poking/dodging, trying to gain the upper hand and its an delicate dance that takes a great deal of skill.

As for why its so popular as an e-sport. Well for one its easy to spectate thanks to the top down view, the longer match time generally means one match will have more interesting events and in general lends it self to more complex long term strategies. Its also in many ways more of an team sport then quake or CS adding in another dimension to the spectating.

I agree. As you hit level 30 and continue to excel through the game, they become quick paced. You begin to make what me and my friends call "The plays."
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Meh I play every once in a while. Its great when Im tired of other games but it's totally session-based so I couldn't imagine sitting down and going hard for a few hours if I had other games to play.
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That new curse voice thing for LoL is pretty sick, can't wait for more people to start using it. I've actually been linking my room code in all chat so players from the other team could join. Hilarious rolleyes.gif
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I don't even understand what supposedly makes the game easy to spectate. I see replays of the game that are supposedly "Super hilarious", or "What an idiot". Basically, some heroes walk close to each other, I see some fancy particle effects, and something about a tower being under attack, and then one of them either teleports away, or dies.

Reflexes or not, the game takes an immense amount of in-depth comprehension of what on earth is going on. In Quake or TF2, even if someone can't really play it so well, they can understand the basics pretty easily - that's a rocket launcher. It shoots powerful explosives.

I also get the sense of inability to recover that's criminally present in games like Battlefield. When I tried playing, failing to follow along with the action correctly for about a minute meant that my character's level was horribly behind the others, and there was no chance of winning for the rest of the match. From then on I might as well just screw around.
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I'm not one for MOBAs myself but a good inbetween that I've found acceptable is Smite a while back, third person, great character variety and both (imo) more involved and motor skill involved then DOTA, LoL, etc. There's more modes that appeal to me and generally shorter as well. I can't say I'm into it as much others are into LoL but if I get the time I enjoy playing it.

Different strokes for different folks, however the sheer mob mentality of the players at the LoL booth at PAX this year was just insane
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