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I'm sure there is a gigantic thread on this, and directing me there is fine, but I can't seem to find it so I'm posting.

I'm doing a haswell gaming/media build with twin 7950s. I\ve heard horrible things about 8.1 but no specifics. Which OS do I want?
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Personally I would give 8.1 a try and see if you experience any of the reported problems.
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8.1 is pretty good. Been using it since it came out.
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This is very difficult for other people to answer. You have to answer this for yourself. For example: from my 2 weeks of living with Windows 8.1 as my only OS, I say Windows 7. I had slow load-times in File Explorer (icons and thumbnails took a long time to show up), and I had this irritating problem:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1480884/windows-8-1-problem-replace-or-skip-files-dialog-box-not-getting-focus-doesnt-open-on-top

 

I also hated how Task Manager never remembered the tab that I was on last (I prefered the Details tab because it was identical to the Processes tab in Windows 7, and I also hated how if I wanted to see the number of processes running, then I'd have to switch to the Performance tab. In Windows 7, I just look at the Status Bar. So, there's no Status Bar in the Windows 8.1 Task Manager, so you also can't just quickly glance at it to see your CPU usage and memory usage either.

 

Personally, I use and prefer Outlook and Word 2003. While Word 2003 works flawlessly in Windows 8.1, Outlook 2003 has some extremely minor issues (well, I think they're minor): no mailto. Yep. You can't assign Outlook to mailto in Windows 8.1. Outlook 2003 also has a type of "auto complete" feature for typing previously-typed e-mail addresses into the To/CC/BCC fields. In Windows 8.1, the suggested e-mail addresses come up, but  they cannot be selected. You still have to type the entire e-mail address. In Windows 7, they CAN be selected and so that means I don't have to type any more than the first couple of characters.

 

Other than that, I think I loved Windows 8.1. Seriously. If it weren't for these issues, then I think that I'd have purchased it already because after installing StartIsBack+, Gadgets Revived, and Old New Explorer, I had everything I wanted (and then some).

 

 

 

Regarding mailto for Outlook 2003 in Windows Vista and Windows 7: this is just for anyone reading this who has Outlook 2003 and wants to get Mailto working in either Vista or Windows 7:

 

http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/outlook-2003-not-listed-in-default-programs/

 

The OL2003Fix file is what did it for me. I just run the file and at first it seems like nothing happens. However, opening Default Programs > Set your default programs shows what happened: it added "Microsoft Office Outlook" to the list! So, you have to click it, and for peace of mind, click "Choose defaults for this program". In there, you get to enable "MAILTO"! :)

 

Edit: OMG THIS WORKS FOR WINDOWS 8.1! I just tested it!


Edited by TwoCables - 4/24/14 at 8:41pm
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OMG I ALMOST FORGOT.

 

Try the 90-Day Windows 8.1 Enterprise Evaluation to see if you'd like Windows 8.1:

 

http://www.cnet.com/news/how-to-run-windows-8-1-for-free-for-90-days/

 

This is what I used for that 2 weeks I mentioned.

 

Just install it to a spare drive.

 

Note: I secure-erased my solid state drive midway through my evaluation, and the 90-Day time was reset!

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8.1 pro

 

Pro isn't 100% necessary, but it can make certain things easier!!

 

bombastinator: In light of this, I forgot to mention something else. You can still be the administrator in Windows 8.1, but it will result in not being able to open Modern Apps because they require UAC to be enabled, and one of the steps to becoming the true administrator is disabling UAC. After that, you open up Local Security Policy and make a special change in there that I can show you if you're interested. It's very easy.

 

Windows 8.1 Pro or higher is required because you won't have Local Security Policy in the standard edition of 8.1.

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I'm sure there is a gigantic thread on this, and directing me there is fine, but I can't seem to find it so I'm posting.

I'm doing a haswell gaming/media build with twin 7950s. I\ve heard horrible things about 8.1 but no specifics. Which OS do I want?

Two gigantic threads (one, two). Mostly about things users dislike about 8, the first link including several of my own posts about how I feel and solutions found.

I you're used to 7, stick with it. If you're willing to mess around a bit initially and don't mind a bit of change 8 is a pretty good OS. Seems to be the conclusion of most from what I've read.

Also if you decide on 8, get 8.1 thumb.gif
Edited by Coreda - 4/24/14 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

bombastinator: In light of this, I forgot to mention something else. You can still be the administrator in Windows 8.1, but it will result in not being able to open Modern Apps because they require UAC to be enabled, and one of the steps to becoming the true administrator is disabling UAC. After that, you open up Local Security Policy and make a special change in there that I can show you if you're interested. It's very easy.

Windows 8.1 Pro or higher is required because you won't have Local Security Policy in the standard edition of 8.1.

    You don't need the Local Security Policy editor to disable UAC.  From Windows Vista onward, you can disable UAC by setting "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System\EnableLUA" to 0.  That's all the Local Security Policy editor does (I checked with Process Monitor).
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coreda View Post

Also if you decide on 8, get 8.1 thumb.gif

    Definitely this, although I personally recommend Windows 7.
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Been using Win 8 since it came out. On 8.1 now. Works just fine on my Tri-SLI 780 and surround rig. I honestly can not figure out any reason not to use Win8.1. The desktop environment is much improved since Win8 and more cool stuff is supposed to be coming this fall. Like metro apps in windows and a proper start menu that also allows live tiles. Kinda slick in the video demo's I have seen. I don't use metro much, but there are a few apps I like and use and to be able to use them in desktop mode will be great once it's added. But, that's my thoughts on it. Works good, and no issues. The only thing I don't like is the BSOD screens. Was nice to get crash codes in Win7 and older. Gave you an idea what went wrong in your OC based on the codes you got. Not so much any more. You now have to open the dump file or just guess. Not the end of the world, but still annoying.
 
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