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Sounds like a lot of lost construction worker jobs if this went mainstream.

That is the drawback of automation. Automation gutted the mill worker industry like no ones business! Here in Oregon we are/were the lumber capital of the world and employed a ton of people in our mills, not so much anymore.

A few years back one of the bigger mills in the area burnt down, something like 90% of it was leveled by the fire. The family decided to open it again after rebuilding it, but in the rebuild they went with automation. The insurance paid for it, and the old mill was really old, so why not? When it burnt down the mill employed about 500 workers, when it opened back up they employed less than a 100 workers - the machines took the rest of the jobs. I guess the "good news" is that they offered those 100 positions to the most senior of employees first.
    
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Lets keep this civil and on topic guys
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Sounds like a lot of lost construction worker jobs if this went mainstream.

As much as it sucks and i can sympathize with those losing their jobs. It is never a reason to hold back scientific progress. Just as the risk of dying from your space shuttle blowing up which is holding millions of pounds of fuel beneath your feet isnt a reason not to go.
Edited by Bluemustang - 5/1/14 at 12:11am
    
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Pretty cool, we need them in the UK... cheap houses biggrin.gif

Houses would still be pretty expensive. It's not the building costs which increase the price. I know someone who owns a company that builds houses. On average he only spends round £85K building a house and the complete houses are worth £200K on average.

You factored out the cost of the land, permits, labour costs, etc. Materials alone are nearly 1/8th the price of the house here. You can build you own house that is worth 1 million for under 100 thousand here.
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My work apartment is 23sm my home for my family of three is 80sm..perspective is key when it come's to living space
 
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My work apartment is 23sm my home for my family of three is 80sm..perspective is key when it come's to living space

Converted sqm to sqft for the US folks here... about 250sqft for his work and ~860sqft for his home.

Reference my last post about my living situation with less space than that. 2bedroom apartment with 4/5 people, 4 dogs, 1 cat.. ~650sqft (60sqm). Like he and I said, perspective is everything and most things and wants people describe as 'needs' for a living space, are far from needs and a luxury for many.
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Sounds like a lot of lost construction worker jobs if this went mainstream.

and the same when the computer came along redface.gif and think if the wheel wasn't invented - there would be no one out of work thumb.gif
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There are 2 ways you could see machines like that being used:

* to make something uber special and complicated that it cannot be done otherwise.

* to make things cheaper to make - and this - in our day and time and for the vast majority of those that are able to read this - means cheaper/less labor. Also note, that cheaper to make doesn't translate to something linearly cheaper for consumers to acquire. Its cheaper for the producer.

The last - less labor requirements - could be taken in two ways:

* great, we won't need to work hard/do manual labor, the machine will provide <- "too" socialistic. We are told that this is doomed to fail, so better not try at all.

* great, the few that own the tech, will make more money, jobs lost will never be replaced. <-current state of manufacturing in US. "Yes, as long as we don't pay more than we would outsourcing" = makes it meaningless for the people.

The jobs robots/automation "create" are very few and too specialized/require skills that the average employee that gets replaced doesn't posses.
What if auto-manufacturing picks up in the US? Jobs lost are lost. Those hired will be hired @ a fraction of the cost/benefits.

Hail to burger flipping, pizza burning, 3D printing automation, F the unions, benefits and high wages.
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* to make something uber special and complicated that it cannot be done otherwise.

The opposite. This is a very crude machine (unlike what a real 3D printer would do) that sprays concrete on a wall. Actual construction with concrete is extremely more refined and meticulous than this.
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The "job loss" refers to the "concept" of this machine, not it's current materialization described by the OP.

I am referring to the concept of 3D printing, and how the refined version of it that 3D prints metal or plastic composites is used in real production - outside rapid prototyping. (at the text you've quoted at least).

Eventually we might reach this kind of refinement with concrete 3D printers, or perhaps 3D printers that can print concrete and tension reinforcing members in one go (perhaps in web configurations, far more efficient than circular rebar sections today)
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