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No, malware does not give two craps whether you're an enterprise or not. Your UTM may be nice, but it can't overcome the power of stupid.

ahahahaha. I love it.
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What OS is a old XP machine going to run better than XP?

I really doubt Msoft is losing a lot of sales to XP because I can't see many people choosing XP for a new PC. XP machines are dinosaurs. Those not in a landfill are hand-me-downs or the kind of PC you find in a charity thrift store and the people with them are old or broke or both, but they're not the ones in the market for a PC with a new OS at this point and time. But if XP works for them because of the extended support, they'll carry a positive view of Msoft if a nd when they are in the position for a new PC. Support for XP is good PR and makes Msoft look consumer oriented. Msoft should embrace being a victim of its own success.

It is not a commercial argument, it's about dropping an old dinosaur that hinders every single developer out there (web and system) and also the user him/herself.
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What OS is a old XP machine going to run better than XP?

Linux?
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Linux?

Paging DSL or TinyCore, just for fun. wink.gif
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See, the problem is not running XP as an operating system, it's running everything else. For example, try opening a fairly recent PDF file on an old XP machine. I worked on one today that the customer complained is running slow. It has an Athlon X2 running at 1.6GHz and 1GB of RAM. What do they think it's going to run like, exactly? It barely has enough RAM to run the OS! (not to mention it's probably DDR400).


The recommended amount of ram for Windows XP is 128MB, 64MB minimum. 1GB is PLENTY of RAM to run Windows XP just fine. But yes, I wholeheartedly agree that XP needs to just die.


I think the major issue is that many people who still run XP won't even know the difference with it being patched or not and will still continue to it and not upgrade unless their system were to completely die and they absolutely had to buy new.
    
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The recommended amount of ram for Windows XP is 128MB, 64MB minimum. 1GB is PLENTY of RAM to run Windows XP just fine. But yes, I wholeheartedly agree that XP needs to just die.


I think the major issue is that many people who still run XP won't even know the difference with it being patched or not and will still continue to it and not upgrade unless their system were to completely die and they absolutely had to buy new.

That probably isn't the recommended amount of RAM after the service packs. I know that I've seen PC's with 256 or 512 MB RAM struggle to run Windows XP and Office, but they probably had a couple of background applications as well.
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What a horrible editorial. Why is that even "news"? The opinion of an idiot saying "part of the solution is not a solution" is useless.
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or just run Linux and have easy 1-Click desktop launcher for a sandboxed XP-VM with networking to only where needed.

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I take it no one posting so far is in the security business end of IT? Just think about how many xp machines are out there, still., Yes I know it's rediculous. Let's just abandon them with no critical patches and hand over that future "Botnet Farm" to the bad peoples in the webs.

 

Yes the companies/users are at fault for still using it. So what should M$ do. Patch them and let it's use die slowly over time, or witness another embarrassing headline for a WINDOWS XP Botnet type attack with their name attached to it right or wrong.

 

Down the road when they have full subscription O/S's they will be able to control it if that ever occurs. /skynet.

 

Think Google. At any moment if needed they can pull any Google App if they had to. Nimble vs the Lumbering giant model. meh back to the morning coffee

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That probably isn't the recommended amount of RAM after the service packs. I know that I've seen PC's with 256 or 512 MB RAM struggle to run Windows XP and Office, but they probably had a couple of background applications as well.


Just going by this Microsoft support article:
- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314865


I can't seem to make a proper link right now for some reason...



Also, thought that it might be ironic and contradictory that I'm typing this from a Windows XP machine at work lol.
    
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