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I kinda don't have a choice anymore yo. I've ordered twice from 2 different ebay sellers, the first package never arrive and the replacement he sent didn't either, USPS at it's best. The second buyer labeled it as shipped but never shipped it and when i asked for the tracking info he never responded. I've used most of my patience on those 2 ebay sellers and just decided to go the adhesive route. The only unforseen problem that could occur is the AIO going bad and it's like 60 bucks to replace that so not much of a problem there. I've tried to source the tape from other places but it's just in my opinion too stressful of a problem to deal with. All this in mind, my $350 worth of cooling parts for my titans are on the floor just derping.

You said you want to mail me some tape and that kinda kindness is overwhelming in my opinion but if ebay packages keep getting lost in transit, i'd rather not have yours disappear as well. I know you said you had 1 and a half strips left as well, that would only cover piece of 1 card since i'm using 12 Copper and 9 Aluminium heatsinks for 1 card. I really appreciate your offer but i mean, i'm left in a kinda difficult / desperate situation. If someone on amazon was selling it, hey i'd buy it immediately but i've already purchased the adhesive + the fan adapters for the GPU, which is pretty sick imo.
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I kinda don't have a choice anymore yo. I've ordered twice from 2 different ebay sellers, the first package never arrive and the replacement he sent didn't either, USPS at it's best. The second buyer labeled it as shipped but never shipped it and when i asked for the tracking info he never responded. I've used most of my patience on those 2 ebay sellers and just decided to go the adhesive route. The only unforseen problem that could occur is the AIO going bad and it's like 60 bucks to replace that so not much of a problem there. I've tried to source the tape from other places but it's just in my opinion too stressful of a problem to deal with. All this in mind, my $350 worth of cooling parts for my titans are on the floor just derping.

You said you want to mail me some tape and that kinda kindness is overwhelming in my opinion but if ebay packages keep getting lost in transit, i'd rather not have yours disappear as well. I know you said you had 1 and a half strips left as well, that would only cover piece of 1 card since i'm using 12 Copper and 9 Aluminium heatsinks for 1 card. I really appreciate your offer but i mean, i'm left in a kinda difficult / desperate situation. If someone on amazon was selling it, hey i'd buy it immediately but i've already purchased the adhesive + the fan adapters for the GPU, which is pretty sick imo.

Your card can break. There are a lot of things that can go wrong, not just a pump failing. If you go permanent, that's it. There is no turning back, and you don't know what could happen in the future. It is best to not regret it later. Pair that with VRM and VRAM heat sinks are not necessary, even for a naked card. It is purely precautionary.

Try using the thermal tape that comes pre-applied to the heatsinks you have already. If they start to fall off, oh well, keep looking. But to go permanent is not a good way to do this.

Try this item:
http://www.amazon.com/TapeCase-9495MP-0-71-60yd-3M/dp/B00K6E5BG8/ref=sr_1_35?ie=UTF8&qid=1413533367&sr=8-35&keywords=double+sided+adhesive+thermal+tape
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Your card can break. There are a lot of things that can go wrong, not just a pump failing. If you go permanent, that's it. There is no turning back, and you don't know what could happen in the future. It is best to not regret it later. Pair that with VRM and VRAM heat sinks are not necessary, even for a naked card. It is purely precautionary.

Try using the thermal tape that comes pre-applied to the heatsinks you have already. If they start to fall off, oh well, keep looking. But to go permanent is not a good way to do this.

Try this item:
http://www.amazon.com/TapeCase-9495MP-0-71-60yd-3M/dp/B00K6E5BG8/ref=sr_1_35?ie=UTF8&qid=1413533367&sr=8-35&keywords=double+sided+adhesive+thermal+tape

Just sharing my experience...

I'm not saying you're wrong, and I know people are running naked cards with the G10 (no Vram or VRM heatsinks) without any issues. But I suspect the lack of Vram cooling is what *might* have killed my windforce 7950 after I'd been running it with the G10 for a couple months. It was a strong performing card, as far as 7950's go and even though I had it overclocked, it wasn't anything crazy (couldn't be due to being voltage locked) and was stable.

I don't really know for sure, but it got to the point where, even at stock clocks, any kind of load on the card would result in freezing, then dropping the display signal and the PC would restart by itself. After that, the PC would only power on, but would not POST.

Again, I'm not certain it was lack of Vram cooling that did it in, maybe it was some other component. I know it wasn't the VRMs because it had a rather beefy heatsink pre-installed with the stock cooler. But going forward I'm definitely going to make sure the VRMs and Vram both have some sort of extra cooling measures in place before I use the G10 again.

Just some food for thought.
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So I picked up a 970 to play with. nzxt says that there compatible but the vrms are on the opposite side of the card lol. it would be the same way with the 670pcb when it was short and had the vrms on the opposite side. So im wondering if anybody has a 970/670 with the vrms on the oppostie side.? since the fan of the g10 wont do anything wondering if passive heatsinks would surfice?
    
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Just sharing my experience...

I'm not saying you're wrong, and I know people are running naked cards with the G10 (no Vram or VRM heatsinks) without any issues. But I suspect the lack of Vram cooling is what *might* have killed my windforce 7950 after I'd been running it with the G10 for a couple months. It was a strong performing card, as far as 7950's go and even though I had it overclocked, it wasn't anything crazy (couldn't be due to being voltage locked) and was stable.

I don't really know for sure, but it got to the point where, even at stock clocks, any kind of load on the card would result in freezing, then dropping the display signal and the PC would restart by itself. After that, the PC would only power on, but would not POST.

Again, I'm not certain it was lack of Vram cooling that did it in, maybe it was some other component. I know it wasn't the VRMs because it had a rather beefy heatsink pre-installed with the stock cooler. But going forward I'm definitely going to make sure the VRMs and Vram both have some sort of extra cooling measures in place before I use the G10 again.

Just some food for thought.

Thank you for that story, I will definitely keep it in consideration in the future. Did you ever try re-installing the stock heat sink to see if that fixed the problem?
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Thank you for that story, I will definitely keep it in consideration in the future. Did you ever try re-installing the stock heat sink to see if that fixed the problem?

Yes, I did try the stock cooler again, but nothing. It's dead. frown.gif

It's still under warranty (for another 2 years) and I have an RMA ticket from gigabyte, so I'm gonna send it in and see what they do. If they honor it and send me a replacement, then at least I will have a backup GPU. wink.gif

I'd been thinking about upgrading to an R9-290 for a while now, so it was convenient that my 7950 died just before Nvidia dropped the 900 series and AMD slashed prices on the 290's. biggrin.gif
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Yes, I did try the stock cooler again, but nothing. It's dead. frown.gif

It's still under warranty (for another 2 years) and I have an RMA ticket from gigabyte, so I'm gonna send it in and see what they do. If they honor it and send me a replacement, then at least I will have a backup GPU. wink.gif

I'd been thinking about upgrading to an R9-290 for a while now, so it was convenient that my 7950 died just before Nvidia dropped the 900 series and AMD slashed prices on the 290's. biggrin.gif

Yea, send it in ASAP. Also see if Gigabyte will tell you the cause of death. I'm really curious if it was overheating. I just have a hard time believing that the VRAM overheated because with the AIO directly on the Die, the VRAM modules around the die, they don't get hot at all, even when overclocked.

A backup GPU would be nice, I've even been patrolling craigslist for one lately just in case. That is convenient that your card died right when all this new stuff is released and prices are slashed. The hard part now is deciding what you want.
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Yea, send it in ASAP. Also see if Gigabyte will tell you the cause of death. I'm really curious if it was overheating. I just have a hard time believing that the VRAM overheated because with the AIO directly on the Die, the VRAM modules around the die, they don't get hot at all, even when overclocked.

A backup GPU would be nice, I've even been patrolling craigslist for one lately just in case. That is convenient that your card died right when all this new stuff is released and prices are slashed. The hard part now is deciding what you want.

I have a hard time believing the Vram modules overheated as well, but I don't what else to point the finger at...? It's the only part that wasn't being actively cooled by anything, besides maybe a little wind from the VRM fan on the G10. GPU core temps with the G10 rarely ever broke low to mid 50's and the VRMs were fine too.

Indeed, I'd really like to know what happened as well. Maybe a bad cap or something...? I'll put a note in with the RMA to inform me of the cause of death, but I suspect they probably have a series of quick tests they perform to show whether the card is dead or not and don't bother spending time to determine what failed. But we shall see...

Oh, I actually already have a new card. wink.gif Picked up an HIS IceQ X2 R9-290 for $285. biggrin.gif And it's a great candidate for the G10 too - Separate dedicated VRM headsink and heatspreader plate covering all the Vram modules all on a reference PCB with upgraded components (solid caps etc.). Despite how it looks, the IceQ X2 air cooler is actually quite efficient and quiet for a 290. I almost don't want to take it apart... lol. Here's their webpage for it with some nice clear pics; http://www.hisdigital.com/ca/product2-790.shtml

Base clocks are 947 GPU and 1250 memory, but I've already nudged that up to 1000 GPU and 1300 memory with afterburner for nice little bump in performance. wink.gif
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I have a hard time believing the Vram modules overheated as well, but I don't what else to point the finger at...? It's the only part that wasn't being actively cooled by anything, besides maybe a little wind from the VRM fan on the G10. GPU core temps with the G10 rarely ever broke low to mid 50's and the VRMs were fine too.

Indeed, I'd really like to know what happened as well. Maybe a bad cap or something...? I'll put a note in with the RMA to inform me of the cause of death, but I suspect they probably have a series of quick tests they perform to show whether the card is dead or not and don't bother spending time to determine what failed. But we shall see...

Oh, I actually already have a new card. wink.gif Picked up an HIS IceQ X2 R9-290 for $285. biggrin.gif And it's a great candidate for the G10 too - Separate dedicated VRM headsink and heatspreader plate covering all the Vram modules all on a reference PCB with upgraded components (solid caps etc.). Despite how it looks, the IceQ X2 air cooler is actually quite efficient and quiet for a 290. I almost don't want to take it apart... lol. Here's their webpage for it with some nice clear pics; http://www.hisdigital.com/ca/product2-790.shtml

Base clocks are 947 GPU and 1250 memory, but I've already nudged that up to 1000 GPU and 1300 memory with afterburner for nice little bump in performance. wink.gif

Dang, thats a really nice OC. I also like the look of the HIS cooler, its so unique, and it looks slim, which is a nice change from these massive cards we've been seeing lately. If you already have a G10 and AIO laying around, hard to not use it.

Maybe a bad cap, it could be. My EVGA 780 died when I had first got it. It was a terrible card. ASIC score of 63.1%, the lowest ever recorded ASIC score for a 780 on OCN. The thing would not overclock at all, period. No matter how much voltage I added, it wouldn't do anything more than +50 on the core, and I couldn't touch memory at all otherwise artifacts. After say.. 3 months of using it, I was playing BF4 one day, and then boom, RPG explodes in my face and my screen goes pinkish brown. Tried to reset the computer and would get white and black lines all across my screen. I sent it in for RMA, which was a breeze with EVGA, customer for life after the way they treated me. Anyways, they don't tell you what went wrong with the card, they just give it a pass or fail and ship you your new card. So, things like that can happen. To this day I still wonder what broke. Its one of the great mysteries in my life. I'm so happy with my new card, ASIC score of 75.4%, and it does +100Mhz on the Core and +250Mhz on the memory without adding any voltage.
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Dang, thats a really nice OC. I also like the look of the HIS cooler, its so unique, and it looks slim, which is a nice change from these massive cards we've been seeing lately. If you already have a G10 and AIO laying around, hard to not use it.

Maybe a bad cap, it could be. My EVGA 780 died when I had first got it. It was a terrible card. ASIC score of 63.1%, the lowest ever recorded ASIC score for a 780 on OCN. The thing would not overclock at all, period. No matter how much voltage I added, it wouldn't do anything more than +50 on the core, and I couldn't touch memory at all otherwise artifacts. After say.. 3 months of using it, I was playing BF4 one day, and then boom, RPG explodes in my face and my screen goes pinkish brown. Tried to reset the computer and would get white and black lines all across my screen. I sent it in for RMA, which was a breeze with EVGA, customer for life after the way they treated me. Anyways, they don't tell you what went wrong with the card, they just give it a pass or fail and ship you your new card. So, things like that can happen. To this day I still wonder what broke. Its one of the great mysteries in my life. I'm so happy with my new card, ASIC score of 75.4%, and it does +100Mhz on the Core and +250Mhz on the memory without adding any voltage.

Yeah, it's definitely unique looking. tongue.gif Don't let the pics fool you. It is slim in that it's a true dual-slot, but it's also very long at 297mm and quite tall. But all that extra cooling surface area does a good job of pulling heat away.

The OC was just a quick little bump intended to be stable and used daily. This card is voltage unlocked, but I haven't bothered trying to push it further and don't really plan to. Just checked the ASIC score (never knew about this before) and it's 82.8%. I assume this is good? Not really sure what it means...

The G10 is sitting in my PC parts drawer taunting me, but I also like the look and performance of the air cooler on the HIS... Decisions... tongue.gif

That's too bad about your first 780. That's one thing about PC components like this. They're so complicated and complex with hundreds or even thousands of individual parts, the odds of something failing or going wrong have to be higher than normal. Just about everywhere you look, there are forums of people complaining about problems with brand new graphics cards. I guess it's somewhat the luck of the draw. But that's great that EVGA looks after their customers and got you a good card in the end. smile.gif
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