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Originally Posted by MEC-777 View Post

Depends on which 390x is in question. I would say yes it will fit (the kraken pretty much fits almost any card), but it may need extra modifications to fit depending on if the card has a backplate, midplate(faceplate) or both. May need longer screws, may not. Might need a shim, might not.

Which 390x are you planning to get?

Hi MEC. I'm aware that depending on various factors I might end needing a shim, longer screws and VRM heatsinks... (which sucks to be honest! It would be cool if the Kraken included everything in the package) that's why I wondered if anyone already tried and could share his/her experiences.

I plan on getting either a MSI or a Sapphire card.

http://msi.com/product/vga/R9-390X-GAMING-8G.html#hero-specification
Pictures of the board: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_390X_Gaming/3.html
  • Has backplate
  • Has midplate.
  • No need for a shim, I believe.
  • VRM heatsinks needed.


http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=D40475DB-8BD0-40F6-8C33-F12D63272AEC&lang=eng#tab2
Pictures of the board: http://www.thinkcomputers.org/sapphire-tri-x-r9-390x-graphics-card-review/2/
  • No backplate
  • No midplate
  • No need for a shim, I believe.
  • VRM heatsinks needed.

I think I would be better served with the Sapphire one... but I'm scared of being the first one trying this and screwing it up, it's an expensive card after all. tongue.gif
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It would be cool if the Kraken included everything in the package
The mid plate serves does add cooling to RAM and VRM (can't hurt to get sinks on VRM too). MSI would be my choice due to this.
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The mid plate serves does add cooling to RAM and VRM (can't hurt to get sinks on VRM too). MSI would be my choice due to this.

Ive played with putting copper heatsinks on the VRAM of several GPUs and it makes no real difference in performance or OC potential. It just doesnt run that warm. A lot of GPUs come with a VRM heatsink on them. I would look for one that does this as a mid plate really just complicates things more than they need to be..
   
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Ive played with putting copper heatsinks on the VRAM of several GPUs and it makes no real difference in performance or OC potential. It just doesnt run that warm. A lot of GPUs come with a VRM heatsink on them. I would look for one that does this as a mid plate really just complicates things more than they need to be..

http://www.apiste-global.com/enc/technology_enc/detail/id=1262

10C Twice Law. Apparently, for every 10C, you can lose up to half the components life.

But I agree, the midplate suffices. We have a user over at the MSI 980 Ti Gaming forum that measured his VRAM, and witha midplate, the VRM and VRAM were around 57C, which isn't bad at all.
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You do not need VRM heatsinks if there is a mid plate. My VRM on classified cards are already uncovered as stock. The mid plate covers the VRAM just fine. Adding sinks should block air flow out of the small 92 mm fan since the mid plate would be obstructed.

This whole VRM sinks nonsense is not helpful. If you don't have a mid plate then you MIGHT need VRAM sinks.
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I never own a high end third party/custom cooler gpu before and only just did a hg10+h60 setup on ref 290x last week but something go winky. so waiting for rma and stuff. the blower fan from the gpu is rather crappy? so I am considering switch to g10.

I want to ask do you guys if you find the aio/g10 make less noise than those 2fan/3fan design?
Edited by baii - 10/5/15 at 7:10pm
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I want to ask do you guys if you find the aio/g10 make less noise than those 2fan/3fan design?

I do. I also have the fans on the radiator on a controller where i can have it whisper quiet when im not gaming. But even under load, they arent very loud. A lot of course depends on choosing good fans, the ones that come with the corsair kits are rather loud. Same for all the other CLC/AIO setups I have installed. Some good fans go a long way in both performance and noise control.
   
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post #4538 of 6464
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Hi MEC. I'm aware that depending on various factors I might end needing a shim, longer screws and VRM heatsinks... (which sucks to be honest! It would be cool if the Kraken included everything in the package) that's why I wondered if anyone already tried and could share his/her experiences.

I plan on getting either a MSI or a Sapphire card.

http://msi.com/product/vga/R9-390X-GAMING-8G.html#hero-specification
Pictures of the board: https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/R9_390X_Gaming/3.html
  • Has backplate
  • Has midplate.
  • No need for a shim, I believe.
  • VRM heatsinks needed.


http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=D40475DB-8BD0-40F6-8C33-F12D63272AEC&lang=eng#tab2
Pictures of the board: http://www.thinkcomputers.org/sapphire-tri-x-r9-390x-graphics-card-review/2/
  • No backplate
  • No midplate
  • No need for a shim, I believe.
  • VRM heatsinks needed.

I think I would be better served with the Sapphire one... but I'm scared of being the first one trying this and screwing it up, it's an expensive card after all. tongue.gif

Both those cards have excellent air coolers (possibly the best 390/x coolers on the market) so if I were you, I'd try running it first on air and try setting up your own custom fan curve using MSI AB before going the route of installing a Kraken G10.

Aside from that, it looks like both cooler designs incorporate active cooling on the VRMs as part of the main heatsink assembly. This is a better design, IMO, than many of the previous 290/X cooler designs that used a smaller separate passive heatsink on the VRMs. So, you would be wise to add heatsinks to the VRMs if you do end up going with the Kraken.
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You do not need VRM heatsinks if there is a mid plate. My VRM on classified cards are already uncovered as stock. The mid plate covers the VRAM just fine. Adding sinks should block air flow out of the small 92 mm fan since the mid plate would be obstructed.

This whole VRM sinks nonsense is not helpful. If you don't have a mid plate then you MIGHT need VRAM sinks.

On the VRMs I would argue that you do need heatsinks of some sort in addition to the 92mm fan on the G10 bracket. As PCper tested this on a reference 290 some time ago, the VRMs having no additional cooling other than the fan, showed very high VRM temps. Even if you're still within the 125 degree rated limit, it's still best to keep them as cool as possible. Adding a heatsink tot he VRMs will increase the surface area where the fan is blowing so that more heat can be pulled away.

The Vram modules don't need any additional cooling unless you're planning to run high memory overclocks 24/7.

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I never own a high end third party/custom cooler gpu before and only just did a hg10+h60 setup on ref 290x last week but something go winky. so waiting for rma and stuff. the blower fan from the gpu is rather crappy? so I am considering switch to g10.

I want to ask do you guys if you find the aio/g10 make less noise than those 2fan/3fan design?

The HG10 for reference cards is actually a better solution (from installation and function) for the reference 290/X's than the Kraken. So if I were you, I would stick with the HG10 + H60 you had originally setup. It'll do a better job cooling your reference card and doesn't require any additional heatsinks (it's mid plate acts as a cooler for the VRMs and Vram). As for the problem you encountered, perhaps you tightened some of the screws too much? Could you describe what happened? Maybe we can help you figure out what happened.

I know this is a Kraken G10 thread, but the HG10 really is better suited for the reference 290/X's.
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I do. I also have the fans on the radiator on a controller where i can have it whisper quiet when im not gaming. But even under load, they arent very loud. A lot of course depends on choosing good fans, the ones that come with the corsair kits are rather loud. Same for all the other CLC/AIO setups I have installed. Some good fans go a long way in both performance and noise control.

Check out the Gelid VGA Fan Adapter, that will work much better for controlling. It'll use the PWM of your card, so your OC software can juse control the fan for you.
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Check out the Gelid VGA Fan Adapter, that will work much better for controlling. It'll use the PWM of your card, so your OC software can juse control the fan for you.

Yeah i purchased adapters at one point but they didnt fit. The fan header on the ASUS cards was different than the other GPUs. Regardless, I like having full control of all my fans now.
   
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