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Has anyone of you installed G10 on Zotac's custom Pascal card? I'm thinking should I go with (soon to arrive from Amazon) AMP! Extreme instead of MSI Gaming X because AMP! Extreme has much higher TDP and MSI Gaming X is quite silent and cool already.

Basically with proper VRAM cooling it could be "as good as MSI" because AMP!'s VRM is cooled with a small heat sink + fans anyway. Another 'downside' is that I would have to remove AMP!'s backplate too.


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1080 AMP! Extreme PCB:

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Edited by escalibur - 7/30/16 at 5:24am
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post #5712 of 6449
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Originally Posted by escalibur View Post

Has anyone of you installed G10 on Zotac's custom Pascal card? I'm thinking should I go with (soon to arrive from Amazon) AMP! Extreme instead of MSI Gaming X because AMP! Extreme has much higher TDP and MSI Gaming X is quite silent and cool already.

Basically with proper VRAM cooling it could be "as good as MSI" because AMP!'s VRM is cooled with a small heat sink + fans anyway. Another 'downside' is that I would have to remove AMP!'s backplate too.


Opinions? smile.gif


1080 AMP! Extreme PCB:

KYcXNox.png

I see no reasons why it wouldnt be a great fit for that card. Already has the Heatsink on the VRMs.

The only caveat is the metal on the top that bends at a 90 and extends outward. I do not think it will interfere however. Do you have a shot of the rear of the GPU?
Edited by Ultisym - 7/30/16 at 10:16am
   
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I don't have the card yet and that photo was taken from some review. I think MSI is still better after all because with Zotac AMP! Extreme I would have to take off the balckplate then I would neet to put some heatsinks onto VRAM chips etc.. and that is a lot of hassle especially if some of the heatsinks start to fell off after some time (been there done that).
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I don't have the card yet and that photo was taken from some review. I think MSI is still better after all because with Zotac AMP! Extreme I would have to take off the balckplate then I would neet to put some heatsinks onto VRAM chips etc.. and that is a lot of hassle especially if some of the heatsinks start to fell off after some time (been there done that).

Well my 980s have a metal frame with something similar on it that does not interfere, still there are no guarantees. Probably better safe than sorry.
   
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Well my 980s have a metal frame with something similar on it that does not interfere, still there are no guarantees. Probably better safe than sorry.

Yeah.

I just found someone's 980 Ti AMP Extreme! (pretty much the same size physically) with Kraken G10: http://www.overclock.net/t/1487012/official-nzxt-kraken-g10-owners-club/5200_50#post_24953889

MSI Gaming X looks definitely like a more safer choice. Eg. Zotac AMP! Extreme's VRAM VRM is cooled by main heatsink and if it is removed something should be applied onto it. I wouldn't cool it with only a 92mm fan with pretty low RPMs.
Edited by escalibur - 7/30/16 at 12:42pm
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So, got myself a G10 + Kraken X61 for my EVGA 980Ti too.

Results, well...alright I suppose.

Used the shim method with a 25x25x1.5mm piece. VRMs cooled by a few small aluminum heatsinks, frontplate and a 92mm beQuiet Silent Wings 2.

With ambient temp of 27-30C (yes), some approx 250W GPU draw (1430mhz core, 1850 mem, 1.13v) and the whole thing mounted in a Corsair 600C as bottom exhaust, I get some 57C GPU, 49C liquid at 76-84% fan speed. 60C GPU, 51 liquid at 67% fan.

That being said, the CPU cooler is right above half of one NZXT fan, so I'm adding in a few watts from my i5 4670.

Not sure if that's in line with what can be expected? Expected a little better to be honest, even with my ambient. I have B14-PS eLoops coming in next week, these should be quieter than the NZXT fans even at 100% PWM. Will see whether they also provide as much cooling as the NZXTs do at 70%. Also might try tightening the screws on the pump a little more. I noticed the G10's metal is really soft and bends hella easy...
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So, got myself a G10 + Kraken X61 for my EVGA 980Ti too.

Results, well...alright I suppose.

Used the shim method with a 25x25x1.5mm piece. VRMs cooled by a few small aluminum heatsinks, frontplate and a 92mm beQuiet Silent Wings 2.

With ambient temp of 27-30C (yes), some approx 250W GPU draw (1430mhz core, 1850 mem, 1.13v) and the whole thing mounted in a Corsair 600C as bottom exhaust, I get some 57C GPU, 49C liquid at 76-84% fan speed. 60C GPU, 51 liquid at 67% fan.

That being said, the CPU cooler is right above half of one NZXT fan, so I'm adding in a few watts from my i5 4670.

Not sure if that's in line with what can be expected? Expected a little better to be honest, even with my ambient. I have B14-PS eLoops coming in next week, these should be quieter than the NZXT fans even at 100% PWM. Will see whether they also provide as much cooling as the NZXTs do at 70%. Also might try tightening the screws on the pump a little more. I noticed the G10's metal is really soft and bends hella easy...

Actual gaming and normal use temps should be low 50s. that said 57C is not a bad temp but do clear up whether that is max temps such as while benching or what please. Also, do you have the fan on the GPU radiator set to exhaust from the case?
   
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Actual gaming and normal use temps should be low 50s. that said 57C is not a bad temp but do clear up whether that is max temps such as while benching or what please. Also, do you have the fan on the GPU radiator set to exhaust from the case?
The temps I listed are in actual gaming. Bench temps in 3DMark and the like are mostly the same though.

Both NZXT fans on the radiator are set as push and exhaust.

Do keep in mind my Ambient gets up to 30C when gaming. So with a "normal" room with some 25C ambient, I might be at like 52 with the same fan speeds etc.

The air temperature inside the case above the rad is usually some 32C while gaming.

ED: that being said, there is a chance my chip is just a hot one. the stock ACX cooler at stock bios was loud as hell, and even with a Morpheus + 120mm eLoops at 1200rpm I couldnt get it below 75C during gaming load (while Ive seen other 980Tis do mid 60s with that cooler and similar power draw)
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So, got myself a G10 + Kraken X61 for my EVGA 980Ti too.

Results, well...alright I suppose.

Used the shim method with a 25x25x1.5mm piece. VRMs cooled by a few small aluminum heatsinks, frontplate and a 92mm beQuiet Silent Wings 2.

What is the cooler hitting if you're not using the shim?

You should only use a shim if the waterblock is hitting something before seating on the GPU. If the waterblock can seat flat on the GPU then you should not use a shim. Shims reduce the cooling efficiency of the waterblock.

If you can get rid of the shim and have the waterblock seat flat on the GPU another thing that you may want to do is lap the waterblock. Use really fine sandpaper (starting with 400-600 grit and working to 2000 grit) and sand the waterblock down to a polished shine.



Lapping eliminates any mill marks and other grooves and ridges on a heatsink or waterblock, allowing more of the metal to be in direct contact with the processor and increasing cooling efficiency. You can drop temps by 3-7C by lapping the cooler.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/guides/lapping/
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What is the cooler hitting if you're not using the shim?

You should only use a shim if the waterblock is hitting something before seating on the GPU. If the waterblock can seat flat on the GPU then you should not use a shim. Shims reduce the cooling efficiency of the waterblock.

Well since I am using the EVGA Frontplate, I cant do without a shim. I ordered 1.2mm and 1.5mm. The 1.2mm leads to the Coldplate sitting flush with the frontplate, not applying full pressure to the GPU+shim. Only the 1.5mm shim then provided enough clearance. So yeah, cant without the shim, unless I get rid of the frontplate, which I dont want to.

Lapping...eh, dont wanna try that just yet. First I'll see what difference the eLoops make and the slightly tighter screws. If that can keep the temps while remaining more quiet, I'm content for the time being.
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Samsung 850 Evo Samsung 840 Evo Seagate Barracuda 7200 Seagate Barracuda 7200 
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Alphacool Eisbär 280 NZXT Kraken X61 NZXT Kraken G10 aquaero 5 LT 
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Windows 10 Professional 64bit b1703 Iiyama X4071 Asus VN248H Cherry MX Board 6.0 
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Logitech Z523 Superlux HD681 EVO 
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Ryzen 7 1700 Asus Crosshair VI Hero EVGA 980Ti @ G10+Kraken X61 Corsair Vengeance LED 
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Samsung 850 Evo Samsung 840 Evo Seagate Barracuda 7200 Seagate Barracuda 7200 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Alphacool Eisbär 280 NZXT Kraken X61 NZXT Kraken G10 aquaero 5 LT 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Professional 64bit b1703 Iiyama X4071 Asus VN248H Cherry MX Board 6.0 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX850i Corsair Carbide 600C Logitech G502 Oittm XL 
AudioAudio
Logitech Z523 Superlux HD681 EVO 
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