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^So far I tested 20-25 different CPU-Z version and stick with 1.69.2 OC or 1.69.2 G1.,though maximum VID voltage is still present.
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Stasio I tried the newest but it still shows vid.

Is SIV working right for you now? I will try again to get the INF 9 series drivers installed today, did not go well yesterday it would shut off my USB ports after booting into Windows. Fortunately I had a good backup.
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in that CPUz shot it shows your vcore as 1.87v??? lol

yea asus is going really hard on Intel Versus Bigfoot, i am sure they have sent out reviewers testing procedures on how to test it to get those results too, the bigfoot has some other advantages as well that you can't test like that like allocation of bandwidth and such. To me the CPu usage most likely comes from the software package the bigfoot employees, but either way I mean they connect by SMBus and PCI-E1x to the PCH just like the Intel, you know CPUs are so strained now rolleyes.gif haha

I don't care for either Intel or bigfoot tho, in my experience they are pretty similar, either one is better than realtek, so the reaal question is would you prefer bigfoot or realtek?
Edited by Sin0822 - 5/15/14 at 2:09pm
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in that CPUz shot it shows your vcore as 1.87v??? lol

yea asus is going really hard on Intel Versus Bigfoot, i am sure they have sent out reviewers testing procedures on how to test it to get those results too, the bigfoot has some other advantages as well that you can't test like that like allocation of bandwidth and such. To me the CPu usage most likely comes from the software package the bigfoot employees, but either way I mean they connect by SMBus and PCI-E1x to the PCH just like the Intel, you know CPUs are so strained now rolleyes.gif haha

I don't care for either Intel or bigfoot tho, in my experience they are pretty similar, either one is better than realtek, so the reaal question is would you prefer bigfoot or realtek?

After looking at all the software bloat associated with Bigfoot, I just uninstalled it and pulled my second LAN cable.

The Z97 board handles differently than the Z87. Vcore does not stay where you set it as well as my Z87 board. For example I can set 1.260 vcore and run a medium benchmark and the vcore will jump to about 1.272 on the Z97. On my Z87 it takes a heavier stressor to move the vcore off the setpoint.
No big deal just have to relearn where to set vcore for different OC's. Might be different with Devils Canyon, who knows.
I still can't install the 9 series chipset drivers, on next boot all the USB ports quit....so I'll stick with the 8 series for now.
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The major change from Z77 to Z87/Z97 was the FIVR, there is little need for a very powerful VRM, since the current needed for the CPU has heavily dropped because of the higher voltage. Instead of dividing power the CPU draws by the VCore you now do it by the VIN voltage which is considerably higher.

While before 150W power(maybe at 4.5-4.7ghz at 1.3vcore and 2.0vin)
Before if you needed 1.3v vcore for a CPU that pulls 150W, then that would be like 150/1.3=115A
But now with the FIVR you don't use the VCore, instead you use the VIN, which in this case is 2.0v(prob higher tho in real life) or higher for more stability and isn't ever going to be less than 1.8v(default), so 150/2=75A the FIVR takes care of the rest.

I guess that's the most important information concerning the post-Haswell era on changes about VRMs. Then again, it's still 75A vs 115A. No too extremely different, though still a ~35% change, quite the difference.

Note on what I quoted from Sin: The information is also found in detail in Sin's guide on Gigabyte overclocking you can find in this forum. http://www.overclock.net/t/1401976/the-gigabyte-z87-haswell-overclocking-oc-guide/0_100
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I've made a mini list of VRM info for a couple of boards I'm interested in. Help me decipher the information I'm missing or the ones I have question marks. It's from information I gathered from here, elsewhere and the old list.



It seems the UD3H got a massive nerf. I would probably look elsewhere, even if I understand the diminished requirements past-Haswell on VRM. The SOC vanilla doesn't look good either (though it's nearly unbelievable it has only 4 phases, is it maybe only the chokes that are 4?).

I'd really like to see a full list of all manufacturers.
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After looking at all the software bloat associated with Bigfoot, I just uninstalled it and pulled my second LAN cable.

The Z97 board handles differently than the Z87. Vcore does not stay where you set it as well as my Z87 board. For example I can set 1.260 vcore and run a medium benchmark and the vcore will jump to about 1.272 on the Z97. On my Z87 it takes a heavier stressor to move the vcore off the setpoint.
No big deal just have to relearn where to set vcore for different OC's. Might be different with Devils Canyon, who knows.
I still can't install the 9 series chipset drivers, on next boot all the USB ports quit....so I'll stick with the 8 series for now.
The chipset driver thing is very odd. Is this not a clean install right? just a mirror from a clean windows install?
You should have 0 problems with chipset driver install as long as its the first driver installed.
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The chipset driver thing is very odd. Is this not a clean install right? just a mirror from a clean windows install?
You should have 0 problems with chipset driver install as long as its the first driver installed.
No it's not a clean install. I tried reinstalling /updating drivers and it's only when I try the 9 series chipset that the USB ports flake out. I think it's a strange sort of thing to happen after an INF install......but it is what it is. Otherwise the board works fine.

Also the two boards share enough drivers I didn't think there would be much hassle...and besides the INF drivers there wasn't.
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why not try a clean install?
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As said,
I am staying from now on with CPU-Z 1.69.2 OC........yes is VID voltage.
The funny thing is that HWMonitor from same dev (Franck) display correct Vcore...rolleyes.gif


Edited by stasio - 5/15/14 at 7:46pm
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why not try a clean install?
No reason except for the time involved. I have a lot of programs and I don't like sitting here feeding the machine all day.
Although it's not been but a few months since a clean install was done, maybe it's time to clean it all out and start over. wink.gif

Was wondering if you could explain how the Spread Spectrum option in the BIOS should be used?
I mean I know what it is, but is there a way it can be set for overclocking in particular?
It's popped up here and there in the Gigabyte BIOS over the last few generations but never seems to stay around long.
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