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Why does AMD Still use Pins Instead of Contact Points?

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I was putting together a computer for a client last night and pulled a rookie mistake. I almost destroyed a brand new FX-6300 because I was apparently careless dropping it into the socket. I bent a pin and spent the next 30 minutes with a spotlight, magnifying glass, tweezers and a razor blade (very good for putting a visible backbround behind the bent pin, makes it easy to see) straightening it out. Thankfully I was successful and the CPU works fine.

So the question is, AMD had a chance with FM processors to go from pins on the bottom of the CPU to contact points, like newer Intel CPU's have. I wonder why they didnt...
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You would have destroyed the motherboard if you did the same on Intel. The pins in the Intel socket are a lot more fragile than what AMD does.

I bet Intel removed the pins from their CPU so that they won't ever have to deal with RMA about the pins, instead pushed dealing with that onto the board makers.
Edited by deepor - 5/7/14 at 6:06am
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Pins on the CPU are way easier to fix/replace than on motherboard like Intel.
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You would have destroyed the motherboard if you did the same on Intel. The pins in the Intel socket are a lot more fragile than what AMD does.

I bet Intel removed the pins from their CPU so that they won't ever have to deal with RMA about the pins, instead pushed dealing with that onto the board makers.

I suspect this too.
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AMD has kept pins, in desktop segments, this long for compatibility/ease of adoption purposes.
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You would have destroyed the motherboard if you did the same on Intel. The pins in the Intel socket are a lot more fragile than what AMD does.

I bet Intel removed the pins from their CPU so that they won't ever have to deal with RMA about the pins, instead pushed dealing with that onto the board makers.

Intel and AMD (with their Opterons) moved to LGA pads because of superior electrical properties, greater pin densities, and greater durability. There are measurable advantages to all of these with LGA.

CPUs tend to cost more than motherboards, so the trade off of a more fragile socket is usually worthwhile.
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intel boards also come witha cover for the socket to protect the pins til the cpu is installed
boards are easy to exchange or rma if they are bent

amd should have changed it for fm and am3+ sockets
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While there are many advantages of LGA sockets, I can't help but hold my breath anytime I've built a rig with an LGA socket mobo/cpu combination. Biggest fear being that one of the pins on the mobo arrives bent or gets bent and you have to RMA or replace the mobo which is a pain. Now in this many years of building systems I've never encountered the problem but I'm not even gonna lie, the ZIF socket and pins on the CPU that AMD has been continuing to use on the desktop front definitely keeps the blood pressure a lot lower and one's life expectancy a lot higher during builds. thumb.gif
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I agree. AMD does the user a favour. I think most rookie builders that used AMD, at some point have distorted, even if only slightly a pin. Happened to me while trying to apply paste. However, most of the time, straightening the pin is easy task, even rookies do it. The vertical position of the pins and the fact the item is small and thus manageable, helps a lot. Different is the case with Intel motherboards. Good luck in recovering from pin damage there. The classic case is "dude, you need to RMA".
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