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God has been listening to my prays. Now just the cheaper GPU's lol
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post #22 of 40
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Originally Posted by AnnoyinDemon View Post

God has been listening to my prays. Now just the cheaper GPU's lol

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JO64TZ8?ie=UTF8&at=&force-full-site=1&ref_=aw_bottom_links

500$ for the second (or third now if the Vapor-X has come out, can't remember if it has) 290x on the market isn't cheap enough?
 
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Wait I am confused... why does it list x86 server parts? Who would use x86 on a server? Does this also include x64?
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Wait I am confused... why does it list x86 server parts? Who would use x86 on a server? Does this also include x64?

x86 means x86-64, surely.

I hope we get some good momentum with this ARM push.
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post #25 of 40
My first chip was an AMD. So I'll always be in their corner.
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Intel would lose it's x86-64 license if AMD were to enter bankruptcy. What happens after that is pretty much unknown. One would assume the x64 license would go into liquidation, but who knows if Intel would end up with it.

lol. Like Intel wouldnt end up with it. If it *really* came down to it, Intel could just cut its x86 chip R&D in half for one year (and still dwarf most other companies R&D) and pay out 5 billion dollars for the license. What other company would ever want to pay anything close to that for something that would go to a product they dont even make? There is no chance at all that Intel would not get the license.
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That's like hearing a criminal saying "let's stop the crimes, they get too much". AMD has been an accomplice of the duopoly for decades. Especially after their initial success on x86-64 instructions they don't even have an excuse that Intel has them on a leash, they have a leash on each other.
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post #28 of 40
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That's like hearing a criminal saying "let's stop the crimes, they get too much". AMD has been an accomplice of the duopoly for decades. Especially after their initial success on x86-64 instructions they don't even have an excuse that Intel has them on a leash, they have a leash on each other.

Eh, this is somewhat true but, you're dodging a few facts here...

In the server market, they are kept on a leash...Actually...That's very true.

I've installed a handful of AMD racks in the past 3 years...With a few dozen Intel racks...

It's not even because one chip is better than the other...It's because Intel has a lock on most of the existing software in the market through one channel or another...So AMD support on that platform is abysmal...Which, there's actually really nothing you can do about it.

I just finished building a rack for a customer...The Xeon I used was over $2500...The comparable AMD product you ask? $1k and in my opinion, is the better product...Actually performance wise, it IS the better product.

There is a significant amount of legitimacy to their claim...Can ask any Admin, they'll give you practically the same answer.

AMD actually has the better chip...But, due to a world of crap, you're often forced to go the opposite direction.
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Eh, this is somewhat true but, you're dodging a few facts here...

In the server market, they are kept on a leash...Actually...That's very true.

I've installed a handful of AMD racks in the past 3 years...With a few dozen Intel racks...

It's not even because one chip is better than the other...It's because Intel has a lock on most of the existing software in the market through one channel or another...So AMD support on that platform is abysmal...Which, there's actually really nothing you can do about it.

I just finished building a rack for a customer...The Xeon I used was over $2500...The comparable AMD product you ask? $1k and in my opinion, is the better product...Actually performance wise, it IS the better product.

There is a significant amount of legitimacy to their claim...Can ask any Admin, they'll give you practically the same answer.

AMD actually has the better chip...But, due to a world of crap, you're often forced to go the opposite direction.

"The comparable AMD product you ask?
Why don't you just tell us the names of both?

You could be using an old Xeon with a newer AMD chip for all we know, and got ripped off. Does little to make a point with no real names to either of the products.
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lol. Like Intel wouldnt end up with it. If it *really* came down to it, Intel could just cut its x86 chip R&D in half for one year (and still dwarf most other companies R&D) and pay out 5 billion dollars for the license. What other company would ever want to pay anything close to that for something that would go to a product they dont even make? There is no chance at all that Intel would not get the license.

There is a chance that no one could get the license and it would belong to the state. It would come down to the liquidator in that case. It would probably be fought in court for years and in the meantime Intel would be without the x86-64 license and you would see a massively negative impact on consumers who would be quickly looking for an alternative to arise. I strongly doubt Intel wants it to ever get to that point.
 
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