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mSATA SSD running hot?

post #1 of 9
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Hello everyone,

I have bought a Crucial M550 128GB mSATA SSD a few days ago and made it a system drive in my Acer V5-573G. I was led to believe that SSDs produce less heat than HDDs, but mine constantly sits at 50+ degrees Celsius, even though it's effectively idle. Is this normal?



Also, I was expecting boot times of about 10-20 seconds, but a cold boot (power button -> idle desktop) takes about 50 according to BootRacer. However, this could be a misconception about what people mean when they talk about boot time (cold boot vs. how long it takes Windows to load), or simply a rather slow CPU (i5-4200U). Again, is this the expected performance?

I'm looking forward to your responses smile.gif
post #2 of 9
I would download CrystalDiskInfo and actually confirm it is running that hot. I don't really trust speedfan for temperatures.

As far as booting goes, the SSD might not be the bottleneck. In my main system, I'm running an EVGA X79 dark and it takes about 30 seconds to boot up. Whereas, my second system that runs a ASUS X79 Deluxe, boots up in about 12 seconds.
post #3 of 9
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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

I would download CrystalDiskInfo and actually confirm it is running that hot. I don't really trust speedfan for temperatures.

As far as booting goes, the SSD might not be the bottleneck. In my main system, I'm running an EVGA X79 dark and it takes about 30 seconds to boot up. Whereas, my second system that runs a ASUS X79 Deluxe, boots up in about 12 seconds.



CrystalDiskInfo has confirmed the SpeedFan temps.

As for the boot time, thanks for the reassurance.
post #4 of 9
According to Crucial's website, it can operate in a range of 0-70C. My guess is there are other components around contributing to the heat. If you are really worried though, I would send an email to Crucial to make sure everything is alright.
post #5 of 9
Yes i saw some report that Crucial msata is hot.
Intel 525 was the best drive for notebook,low power consumption + low busy time i was so close to take it,BUT it was hot ,so hot that when you move some big files it need to throttle down.
SO, even if this SSD can operate in a range of 0-70C when it hits 70 it needs to throttle down and that means lower performance + you have laptop which dont have PC cooling so you don't need one more warm component.
I suggest you to return it if you can and take Samsung EVO msata or My Digital SSD.I took one for my ultrabook and i am satisfied.
About boot time,when you restart ,even laptop need to do that in 15 second ,so something isn't right.My 900X3C needs 20 seconds to boot Windows 7 till i can load page in Internet browser and it has only ULV processor.
Or you have some USB connected during boot or your system is in IDE mode or something else.
Download AS-SSD benchmark there you will see some important info.
Edited by Unit Igor - 5/10/14 at 11:03am
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by jameyscott View Post

According to Crucial's website, it can operate in a range of 0-70C. My guess is there are other components around contributing to the heat. If you are really worried though, I would send an email to Crucial to make sure everything is alright.

I know it's well within its operation temp range, but it still seems weird that the component of my laptop, which is supposed to be the coolest is actually the hottest.
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Originally Posted by Unit Igor View Post

Yes i saw some report that Crucial msata is hot.
Intel 525 was the best drive for notebook,low power consumption + low busy time i was so close to take it,BUT it was hot ,so hot that when you move some big files it need to throttle down.
SO, even if this SSD can operate in a range of 0-70C when it hits 70 it needs to throttle down and that means lower performance + you have laptop which dont have PC cooling so you don't need one more warm component.
I suggest you to return it if you can and take Samsung EVO msata or My Digital SSD.I took one for my ultrabook and i am satisfied.
About boot time,when you restart ,even laptop need to do that in 15 second ,so something isn't right.My 900X3C needs 20 seconds to boot Windows 7 till i can load page in Internet browser and it has only ULV processor.
Or you have some USB connected during boot or your system is in IDE mode or something else.
Download AS-SSD benchmark there you will see some important info.

I have downloaded the AS-SSD benchmark, here are the results:



One weird thing (that is, unfortunately, not visible in this picture) is that when I first ran the benchmark, the 4k-64Thrd test returned a read speed of over 600MB/s, which, if I am not mistaken, should not be possible over the SATAIII interface. The temperature rose by 1 degree while benchmarking.

As for the other things: my BIOS is set to AHCI and the only thing I have connected via USB is my ASUS GX950 mouse.

I was considering a Samsung 840 EVO, but one of my buddies with background in IT told me that the other brands are just as good as Samsung and they're all cheaper. Crucial has a good rep, so I went with them instead. I can still get a full refund on this one, though, so if the performance isn't what it's supposed to be, I might return it.

As a side note, I really like your profile picture. Legion is awesome thumbsupsmiley.png
Edited by Ysquanir - 5/10/14 at 1:28pm
post #7 of 9
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Originally Posted by Ysquanir View Post

Legion is awesome thumbsupsmiley.png
DOES THIS UNIT HAVE A SOUL

About AS-SSD
You are definitely in AHCI mode and SSD is not misaligned.But you have storahci driver which is pretty old.You should definitely install Intel RST 12.08 driver then please report back what boot time do you have.Download -.exe file then install it,or download zip file then go to device manager ,find storage controller driver and updated with 12.08
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=23060
Will you change your SSD that really deepens on you.Crucial C300 and M4 was great SSDs but this new Crucial just dont have that awesomeness.
I follow notebook scene but this notebook never cache my eye.It seems to me like nice notebook for money you pay.Backlit keyboard,option for two drives,seven hours battery life ,only 2 kg.That is great great laptop.Are you satisfied with keyboard? does it captures space key every time?I ask this because my previous Asus have that problem.
Is screen total matte?And is it reliable?I see now on notebookcheck this notebook release a lot of heat under load.
Edited by Unit Igor - 5/10/14 at 2:40pm
post #8 of 9
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unit Igor View Post

DOES THIS UNIT HAVE A SOUL

About AS-SSD
You are definitely in AHCI mode and SSD is not misaligned.But you have storahci driver which is pretty old.You should definitely install Intel RST 12.08 driver then please report back what boot time do you have.Download -.exe file then install it,or download zip file then go to device manager ,find storage controller driver and updated with 12.08
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=23060
Will you change your SSD that really deepens on you.Crucial C300 and M4 was great SSDs but this new Crucial just dont have that awesomeness.
I follow notebook scene but this notebook never cache my eye.It seems to me like nice notebook for money you pay.Backlit keyboard,option for two drives,seven hours battery life ,only 2 kg.That is great great laptop.Are you satisfied with keyboard? does it captures space key every time?I ask this because my previous Asus have that problem.
Is screen total matte?And is it reliable?I see now on notebookcheck this notebook release a lot of heat under load.

I've done one reboot before installing the RST software and I've noticed the boot was much faster (24s with a ton of stuff like Origin, Steam, etc.). Then I've realized that in my battle to get Win8 to obey me I had to reinstall it several times yesterday and looking back at CrystalDiskInfo, that process has written nearly 160GB of data. Is it possible that the boot time was slow, because TRIM hadn't managed to tidy the drive up before? The temperatures remained the same, so I still might replace it with the Samsung SSD in the end.

As for the laptop, I don't have it long enough to really comment on reliability (10 days). My first impressions are really good, though. I bought it mainly because I needed a lighter and more compact replacement for my ASUS G74SX.
The display is much better than the G74SX – it's FullHD, matte and uses IPS technology. It was one of the main reasons why I went for this one, since I work with graphic and web design a lot.
Both the CPU and GPU are slower than what the previous one had (i7-2630QM and GTX560M – mainly faster because of a wider 192bit bus), but they're sufficient for the programs I use and lighter gaming. They're also much more power-efficient, which helps with the portability.
The keyboard is okay, I don't think it has missed out on a key-press, yet. There is a bit of flexing at the center, however, and it seems to have issues with ghosting in certain games (I've only noticed it in Jets'N'Guns so far, though I haven't played a lot of games on it so far).
Heat doesn't seem to be much of a problem, it idles lower than the G74SX and both light and heavy load temperatures are similar.
The only problem which I have is that one of its fans is making a quiet whirring noise that's driving me crazy. I've actually got a thread about this issue over at http://community.acer.com/t5/Ultra-Thin/V5-573G-Noisy-right-fan/m-p/244920#U244920. If it turns out it can't be fixed, I think I will need to return this laptop, because that noise is enough to crush my already weak concentration. And that would be a damned shame sadsmiley.gif

Anyway, thanks for your help and advice, guys smile.gif
post #9 of 9
You should try Intel RST 12.8 driver.It was made for new systems and Windows 8 .You will see your OS will preform much more snappier .Just look from which year is storahci.
See you and thanks for notebook impressions.It seems like great value for money.
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