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I am noticing that there's a huge rash of people lately who have Prime95 version 25.11. Here's why:

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=prime95

 

Look at the 2nd link. Sigh. Come on, Google. lol

 

EVERYONE: Please avoid version 25.11! This is a very out-dated version. Download it from here: http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm This is the official site!

 

Why? Because only the latest version can properly test the stability of our modern CPUs.

 

Please spread the word. Every time you find out that a newer member or a newer overclocker is using Prime95, PLEASE ASK WHAT VERSION THEY HAVE.


Edited by TwoCables - 5/11/14 at 12:23pm
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Wow I'm getting temps 15C cooler with the official prime95. Are you sure this is the best version to use?
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Wow I'm getting temps 15C cooler with the official prime95. Are you sure this is the best version to use?

 

Yes, of course I'm sure. Besides, 25.11 is 4 years old.

 

Are you using the same selected test?

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Nice find TwoCables
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AVX wasn't supported until 27.x and the current 27.9 does not support AVX2 yet.

I'm not even certain if the current 28.5 beta supports AVX2 yet.
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Nice find TwoCables

 

Thank you.

 

Guys: from now on, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE provide the following link whenever you tell someone to use Prime95:

 

http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm

 

If you just leave it up to them to Google it, then they're going to end up with something like 25.11. I had one guy say to me, "I used Prime95. I downloaded it yesterday, so I'm sure that I have the latest version". I hadn't figured all this out yet, so I said, "Ok good". Then 2 days later, I'm like, "What version do you have?", and I get "25.11. Why?" I facepalmed so hard that my hand went through my face, out the back of my head and knocked out the wall behind me. :)

 

So yeah, I am begging you all to please make sure from now on that people get Prime95 from here: http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm Give them the link. Tell them to go there. After they get it, ask them what version number they have because some people will ignore our advice and just Google it anyway because they think they know better than we do. "Yeah, I'll Google it and that will get me the best one". Wrong. lol

 

Thank you, everyone.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blameless View Post

AVX wasn't supported until 27.x and the current 27.9 does not support AVX2 yet.

I'm not even certain if the current 28.5 beta supports AVX2 yet.

 

Aw man. Do you know of what does use AVX2?

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Aw man. Do you know of what does use AVX2?

As far as stress test oriented software? IBT or LinX using the newest versions of the Intel Math Kernel Libraries.

Still, Prime95 is a handy test, but you do want to supplement it with some AVX2 testing to make sure those features work correctly at the OC you are going for, as well as to best represent a worst case scenario.
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I don't use those benchmark programs anyway. I start up firefox and open a 1 hour youtube video at 1080p and get that playing.

open IE x64bit and do the same on a different video at 1080p ( with my amd video card using HARDWARE ACCELLERATION)

I open DeGo video converter and put a 1+ Gigabyte video in there and convert it using the highest conversion settings ( usually takes 30 minutes or more)

I open wimamp and play a movie in it

then I open a game that is cpu hell like Planetside 2 (usually requires 4 core cpu to play decent) and I set it to HIGHEST settings.


I already have my hardware OC'd, either CPU or GPU and then I play planetside until the system crashes or doesn't.

I have a decent asus motherboard that will shut me down if anything goes wrong and will put things back to default after reboot.

Forget those benchmark programs.

OC whatever you want to OC then open all the programs you use the most and make your PC work at maximum. IF your OC is good it won't crash.

If you are a smart OC'r you will increment so low each time that you never really stress your system to the point you are going to break anything that way too.


Just my two cents. thumb.gif

*edit , I wanted to add the reason I do this is that most of those benchmark programs go way beyond what you will ever do on your on personal PC ... if you open most of the programs you use most often and make them do the things you do most all at the same time and your OC is stable you are good to go. You don't need to push it past that in my opinion. YOu will NEVER have ALL those open doing all that at once so if your OC is stable with all that working for a hour or two you are GOOD TO GO..

Just my opinion but its logical.
Edited by bytebull - 5/10/14 at 3:38pm
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During my 5+ years here, every expert and professional and competitive overclocker says that things like Prime95 must be used because when you're overclocking, you're making huge changes. I have found this to be true during my time here. Every time someone comes here with various unexplained problems and their CPU is overclocked, I usually find out that they didn't properly test their computer's stability. After doing so, they find that it can't pass the test and that they must change some settings (usually increase the vcore). After that, everything is fine - all of their problems go away.

 

So, I will continue testing my computer's stability the recommended way(s) rather than doing all that...

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most of those benchmark programs go way beyond what you will ever do on your on personal PC

Which is, of course, the whole point.

You cannot get a good idea of stability in any reasonable level of time with only the programs you use daily. Crashes, errors, or silent corruption that occurs ever few days is utterly unacceptable to me.and Requiring days, weeks, or months of use to be certain there won't be any issues is just as unacceptable.
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... if you open most of the programs you use most often and make them do the things you do most all at the same time and your OC is stable you are good to go.

Only if you do not actually care about stability or the integrity of your data.
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