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Xeon x5660 or i7 970?

post #1 of 24
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Hi guys,

My setup is in my sig.

I really don't know whether to go for the xeon x5660 or the i7 970...

On the Asus website, it says the 970 is compatable but doesn't mention the xeon. However, the xeon does fit the 1366 socket in my mobo. I've read one post from another forum saying that they run the xeon on this mobo with the katest bios and all is fine.

As far as I can see, the 970 uses more power than the xeon but otherwise beats it in most cases or is the same.

I don't want to risk getting a cpu that will cause issues and I want a decent upgrade for a decent price, so I'm unsure on what to do.

I can get the xeon for about £130 and the 970 for about £200 from ebay.

What would you guys say?

Thanks.
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post #2 of 24
Why do you mainly use your Pc for?

The i7 970 would be my choice.
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Why do you mainly use your Pc for?

The i7 970 would be my choice.

Sorry, should've said.

I don't game. I do video editing, 3D work and music production.
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post #4 of 24
The QPI is slightly faster on the Xeon but for your usage I'd suggest getting the i7

Yes it has a premium in terms of price but it's supported better by the board and faster out the box without needing to dabble in overclocking. Plus it has the headroom to overclock should you choose to do so

A 25w TDP difference between the two isn't exactly insignificant. But cool(er) doesn't mean much when trying to encode because even just 30s saved per video adds up in terms of productivity.
post #5 of 24
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The QPI is slightly faster on the Xeon but for your usage I'd suggest getting the i7

Yes it has a premium in terms of price but it's supported better by the board and faster out the box without needing to dabble in overclocking. Plus it has the headroom to overclock should you choose to do so

A 25w TDP difference between the two isn't exactly insignificant. But cool(er) doesn't mean much when trying to encode because even just 30s saved per video adds up in terms of productivity.

I agree. I've been looking at the i7 980 too. I could get one for around £250 which is a little more than the 970.

Just not sure what one is best. Even a 980x can be had for £300....is that worth going for you reckon?
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post #6 of 24
The 980x is even quicker out the box than the 970 but I reckon the real advantage is with the unlocked multiplier.

If your cooling is up to it you can easily hit 4.2ghz on it and really get performance going which is crucial for your needs.

But to be frank you could get the 970 and overclock that but the process won't be as straight forward. Save yourself cash in the process.

If it were my money...

I'd get the 980x because of the unlocked multiplier which will make overclocking a very simple task plus it's already faster than all your other options.

An you can give it a little. Post on stock cooling without major issues and you can really make it fly with after market.

Otherwise if your budget is tight go for the normal 980.

Having done a lot of encoding myself using adobe premiere and pinnacle studio I know how just 30s to 1min save per video can add up when you're doing dozens of videos a day.
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post #8 of 24
First things first.

Avoid that 970. It's an engineering sample which means its not a final retail chip. Which means it could have a few things wrong with it or be incomplete. you can always tell because it has "ES" in the title.

The 980 is just dirty. Whoever took a picture didn't bother cleaning the stock TIM (thermal interface material) properly.

The 980x seems to have been cleaned very well but it's heat spreader seems scratched up a little so you will need good TIM to use on it.

Are you planning to overclock at all?

If at any point in the future you are I'd really suggest the 980x

I'd buy it now...use the stock cooling that you have...and maybe a few months down the line save up for a decent cooler (closed loop) and crank it's speed.

You could then get to 4.8ghz with it if you have a lucky chip.
post #9 of 24
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ok, thanks alot.

This is another 970 offer:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Slightly-used-Intel-Core-i7-970-CPU-/131164880448?pt=US_CPU_Fans_Heatsinks&hash=item1e8a093e40

I use shin etsu x23 TIM.

So, that 980x I linked, does it look good enough condition to last a good amount of time?

With me getting the 780 eventually, I want this set up to last another few years tbh.
Edited by 8564dan - 5/14/14 at 5:50am
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post #10 of 24
Your TIM is good.

As for the processors...

The 970 you found is much better than the other one but according to my numbers it will cost you £293.30 with import duties and shipping as its coming from the USA.

Which is pretty close to the £300 980x which has postage free in te UK and is faster out the box.

And if you want this system to last a few years get the best you can now.

And I can't stress enough...the unlocked multiplier on the 980x will be really handy say a year from now when you want to overclock.

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