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I was thinking 300 originally for the Mobo/CPU/RAM. (I'll probably have to raise that a bit though) I was looking at around 120-150 for a used GPU, something around the r9 270/270x. Really the budget should be under 600 for everything excluding the cost of the case (PSU, HDD, etc). No peripherals needed as he already has a 1080p screen and peripherals. (Crappy peripherals).

I know this is an Intel forum, but have you considered an overclocked FX-6300 build? FX-6300 @ 4.6-4.7ghz can easily be done on a $90 motherboard and $44 cooler. i5-4590 is 3.3ghz x 4 cores for $200, vs. FX-6300 ($120) + Thermalright Macho 120 ($44) = $164 for 6 cores @ 4.6-4.7ghz (which is equivalent to 6 Haswell cores @ 2.9-3.0ghz). $36 saved is better put into vidcard or other components with this budget IMO.
Edited by synge - 5/14/14 at 5:30pm
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I know this is an Intel forum, but have you considered an overclocked FX-6300 build? FX-6300 @ 4.6-4.7ghz can easily be done on a $90 motherboard and $44 cooler. i5-4590 is 3.3ghz x 4 cores for $200, vs. FX-6300 ($120) + Thermalright Macho 120 ($44) = $164 for 6 cores @ 4.6-4.7ghz (which is equivalent to 6 Haswell cores @ 2.9-3.0ghz). $36 saved is better put into vidcard or other components with this budget IMO.

I thought about it, I have an FX 8350 as my sig rig with a mild overclock. Since it's going to a 14 year old who has little to no knowledge of computers, I figured I would leave the rig at stock speeds. So, I decided an Intel i5 budget setup would probably be easiest to support. If I had to overclock and get the 6300 stable, that wouldn't be a problem. If the system started becoming unstable though, I would have to walk him through seeing what was unstable. It's easier just to build him a simple setup without an overclock. :/ If he were a few years older, I wouldn't have an issue with an FX 6300, 990 chipset board, good air cooler, and a strong overclock.

It's a good suggestion, and it would save a few bucks, but it's just not viable for the situation.
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Well I cant say what will be a good budget build in 3 months,better send me a PM when are you going to start to buy the parts
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Well I cant say what will be a good budget build in 3 months,better send me a PM when are you going to start to buy the parts

Fair enough. I've pretty much realized that starting this far in advance for the main components is a bit of a pipe dream. smile.gif Prices rise and fall all the time. I can collect the majority of the parts sans the CPU, mobo, and GPU with little to no flux. I'll definitely send you a PM when the build gets started, but I'll also probably necro this thread. XD
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I don't think it's too early to plan. The main component that will vary in price (decreasing) will be the graphics card, most everything else should stay fairly constant. I suggest the following if you're going Intel:

CPU: Core i5-3330 3.0ghz socket 1155. Get used because there is little risk with used locked CPUs. Currently trading at ~$170.

Cooler: You indicated that you wanted something better than stock cooling. My choice would be Cooler Master Hyper 101 for $15.

Motherboard: Get new. New 1155 motherboards are still readily available, and there are a few decent H61 boards for under $50. My choice would be Gigabyte GA-H61M-S1. Let's say $50 there.

RAM: Get new, or used if you can find substantially cheaper maybe. H61 only supports up to 1333mhz, but cheapest new RAM is usually 1600, it will also work at 1333mhz fine. Suggest going with 8gb, 1 x 8GB and 2 x 4GB are both around $65 new, your choice. If going with only 4GB, be sure to get a single stick to leave an upgrade path to 8GB.

HDD: Definitely get new! Suggest WD Blue 1TB (WD10EZEX) which is faster, slightly cheaper ($60), and IMO more reliable than the Barracuda.

Optical: Toss in one you have lying around. smile.gif

PSU: Get new. 650w is gross overkill for a build like this, and modular is unnecessary in a build this simple. Recommend Antec Earthwatts 380W which is sufficient - old version currently selling on eBay for $38 is a very good deal, I would snap that up, otherwise get new version for ~$52-$54, the only difference between old and new versions is the color!

Case: NZXT Source 210 Black is indeed a good budget case for ~$46 shipped. Even cheaper and still not bad is Apex SK-393-C - currently $34 shipped.

Cheapest legal way to get Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit is from Snaggstuff.com for $69.

So far we have:
CPU: $170
Cooler: $15
MB: $50
RAM: $65
HD: $60
Optical: Free
PSU: $38
Case:$46
OS: $69
Subtotal: $513
.... if your budget is $600, we have $87 left for a video card. Going used, right now your best options would be either a HD5870 or GTX560ti. I would go with the 560ti because a lot of 5870s were used as mining cards. Of course the GPU is the part that will drop in price the most over the next few months, so this situation may change and it's best to wait as long as possible before buying.

If you don't feel you have enough left over for a video card, it would be best to step down on the CPU. The next logical choice would be AMD FX-6350 3.9/4.1ghz for $140 including a stock cooler that actually handles that cpu quite well at stock speeds. Motherboards are cheaper too. An ECS A960-MV(1.0A) for $35 will do the job being as we're not overclocking. Everything else ends up being the same so we have:

CPU: $140 (includes cooler)
MB: $35
RAM: $65
HD: $60
Optical: Free
PSU: $38
Case: $46
OS: $69
Subtotal: $453
... now, on a $600 budget, we have $147 to spend on a vidcard. $150 gets us a new R7 265, or used, ~$145 gets us a HD7950, which is actually a respectable 1080p card!

Hope all this helps.
Edited by synge - 5/14/14 at 9:05pm
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I don't think it's too early to plan. The main component that will vary in price (decreasing) will be the graphics card, most everything else should stay fairly constant. I suggest the following if you're going Intel:

CPU: Core i5-3330 3.0ghz socket 1155. Get used because there is little risk with used locked CPUs. Currently trading at ~$170.

Cooler: You indicated that you wanted something better than stock cooling. My choice would be Cooler Master Hyper 101 for $15.

Motherboard: Get new. New 1155 motherboards are still readily available, and there are a few decent H61 boards for under $50. My choice would be Gigabyte GA-H61M-S1. Let's say $50 there.

RAM: Get new, or used if you can find substantially cheaper maybe. H61 only supports up to 1333mhz, but cheapest new RAM is usually 1600, it will also work at 1333mhz fine. Suggest going with 8gb, 1 x 8GB and 2 x 4GB are both around $65 new, your choice. If going with only 4GB, be sure to get a single stick to leave an upgrade path to 8GB.

HDD: Definitely get new! Suggest WD Blue 1TB (WD10EZEX) which is faster, slightly cheaper ($60), and IMO more reliable than the Barracuda.

Optical: Toss in one you have lying around. smile.gif

PSU: Get new. 650w is gross overkill for a build like this, and modular is unnecessary in a build this simple. Recommend Antec Earthwatts 380W which is sufficient - old version currently selling on eBay for $38 is a very good deal, I would snap that up, otherwise get new version for ~$52-$54, the only difference between old and new versions is the color!

Case: NZXT Source 210 Black is indeed a good budget case for ~$46 shipped. Even cheaper and still not bad is Apex SK-393-C - currently $34 shipped.

Cheapest legal way to get Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit is from Snaggstuff.com for $69.

So far we have:
CPU: $170
Cooler: $15
MB: $50
RAM: $65
HD: $60
Optical: Free
PSU: $38
Case:$46
OS: $69
Subtotal: $513
.... if your budget is $600, we have $87 left for a video card. Going used, right now your best options would be either a HD5870 or GTX560ti. I would go with the 560ti because a lot of 5870s were used as mining cards. Of course the GPU is the part that will drop in price the most over the next few months, so this situation may change and it's best to wait as long as possible before buying.

If you don't feel you have enough left over for a video card, it would be best to step down on the CPU. The next logical choice would be AMD FX-6350 3.9/4.1ghz for $140 including a stock cooler that actually handles that cpu quite well at stock speeds. Motherboards are cheaper too. An ECS A960-MV(1.0A) for $35 will do the job being as we're not overclocking. Everything else ends up being the same so we have:

CPU: $140 (includes cooler)
MB: $35
RAM: $65
HD: $60
Optical: Free
PSU: $38
Case: $46
OS: $69
Subtotal: $453
... now, on a $600 budget, we have $147 to spend on a vidcard. $150 gets us a new R7 265, or used, ~$145 gets us a HD7950, which is actually a respectable 1080p card!

Hope all this helps.

The 600 budget is for the components other than the case, but your suggestions both fit pretty well. It's just the budgets would have 46 dollars more for graphics than listed, which can make a huge difference. Thanks for the suggestions! They actually look pretty good and I'll look into those configurations a bit. thumb.gif
Edited by Terrere - 5/15/14 at 9:49am
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Ok... I found an e3 1245 (Sandy Bridge) which is a server processor... But it's new for 175 here. It's an 1155 socket server processor but the processor is right at the level of a stock i5-4670k or AMD 8320 in CPU benchmarks. I know I'm asking about an antiquated architecture and comparing it to new, more efficient products, but would it work for what I'm doing? For 180 shipped new, I don't think I'd be too far off to say it's a good deal.

Edited: I read the specs wrong rolleyes.gif It's an 1155 socket processor... Edited to reflect my thoughts now.
Edited by Terrere - 5/15/14 at 7:53am
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I actually decided to look at this case. It boasts basically the same features that the Source 210 has, but looks a bit snazzier doing it. (It's all about the gimmick boys!)
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There are better case(airflow wise) for about 40-60usd
Cooler Master Haf 912
Antec GX700
Enermax Coenus
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There are better case(airflow wise) for about 40-60usd
Cooler Master Haf 912
Antec GX700
Enermax Coenus

Yeah, I'm still looking. The source 210 is going to run 45-50 for the Black, so I'm looking at other options to work with.
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