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So I had this happen to me the other day.

I was playing KSP when it crashed with no error. As I was about to run it again my monitor went black like it was on stdby. I restarted my computer and it showed the boot screen alright but on windows logo the whole screen turned red with strange texture at the center.

I have no issue with my computer, no performance degradation or anything, any ideas what is about to die in my pc? I'm thinking its gonna be my gpu or my monitor. The later is pretty new so I hope that's not the case.
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It sounds very much like a video card issue. When video cards start going bad, you will find that 3D applications will start crashing. These weird textures are called "artifacts" and any artifacting and strange colors are very likely to tell you that the video card is starting to rot.

There is a small chance that your video card drivers are malfunctioning as well, so I would advise you to try out older drivers that have worked for you (in this case, do clean the previous drivers with 3rd party software).

If it would be your monitor, the game would still be working and you could hear it from the speakers. In that case, it would be a faulty cable issue.

Monitor the temperatures of your video card with a program like MSi Afterburner and see if they get abnormally high (100C or more). Video cards can stand around 110C max temperature, but normally, cards shouldn't go a lot over 85C with proper cooling solutions. If the temperatures are too high, there is a problem with your graphics cards cooling solution (the fan is malfunctioning and not directing the heat out OR the thermal adhesive or -paste is not properly applied).

Another chance is that your GPU is overclocked and is failing due to bad settings, but I wouldn't bet too much on this one.

If it seems true that the card is dying on you, and you have performed the previously stated steps, you should return it under warranty, if possible. Take care. thumb.gif
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post #3 of 17
most likely the gpu

try another gpu or monitor to verify
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It sounds very much like a video card issue. When video cards start going bad, you will find that 3D applications will start crashing. These weird textures are called "artifacts" and any artifacting and strange colors are very likely to tell you that the video card is starting to rot.

There is a small chance that your video card drivers are malfunctioning as well, so I would advise you to try out older drivers that have worked for you (in this case, do clean the previous drivers with 3rd party software).

If it would be your monitor, the game would still be working and you could hear it from the speakers. In that case, it would be a faulty cable issue.

Monitor the temperatures of your video card with a program like MSi Afterburner and see if they get abnormally high (100C or more). Video cards can stand around 110C max temperature, but normally, cards shouldn't go a lot over 85C with proper cooling solutions. If the temperatures are too high, there is a problem with your graphics cards cooling solution (the fan is malfunctioning and not directing the heat out OR the thermal adhesive or -paste is not properly applied).

Another chance is that your GPU is overclocked and is failing due to bad settings, but I wouldn't bet too much on this one.

If it seems true that the card is dying on you, and you have performed the previously stated steps, you should return it under warranty, if possible. Take care. thumb.gif

This was for now a 1 time issue but I am just trying to get prepared for when it happens.

I'm thinking of switching to the green side when it happens and buying the product bellow. Don't get me wrong I was very pleased with my AMD 7970 and it overclocked like a beast and was also very stable but I find the newer r9 290x to run hotter than it should.
http://www.dinokomp.si/produkt/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-780-ti-3gb-windforce-3x-oc/
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your pc is possessed! call an exorcist
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post #6 of 17
Your 7970 is probably starting to die. These are the first signs of impending video card failure.

As for R9 290x running hot...it's designed to run that way.

AMD have stated that the 290x can run at 95 degrees all day every day for years. They have tested it extensively during development and are quite happy with its characteristics.

Of course that doesn't stop people from freaking out when they see the temps it starts throttling at.

The wind force 780 Ti is a great card and that cooler really does prove its worth. Also consider the EVGA 780 TI classified. That ACX cooler is also quite efficient.

The third choice is like to recommend is the Gainward 780 TI phantom.

It doesn't have as many power phases as the EVGA but still overclocks well and packs a punch. Silent too.

Whatever your choice you're bound to be pleased.

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post #7 of 17

make sure your VGA/DVI connector isnt loose... as this will cause the same issue.

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Originally Posted by Fur1on View Post

Your 7970 is probably starting to die. These are the first signs of impending video card failure.

As for R9 290x running hot...it's designed to run that way.

AMD have stated that the 290x can run at 95 degrees all day every day for years. They have tested it extensively during development and are quite happy with its characteristics.

Of course that doesn't stop people from freaking out when they see the temps it starts throttling at.

The wind force 780 Ti is a great card and that cooler really does prove its worth. Also consider the EVGA 780 TI classified. That ACX cooler is also quite efficient.

The third choice is like to recommend is the Gainward 780 TI phantom.

It doesn't have as many power phases as the EVGA but still overclocks well and packs a punch. Silent too.

Whatever your choice you're bound to be pleased.

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I might look those up. Still deciding which way to go since all of the above are great cards but to be fair I'm not expecting much of an improvement over 7970.
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post #9 of 17
There is a huge improvement in most games. Take a look at this as an example.

www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2013/11/07/nvidia-gtx-780-ti-3gb-review/8
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Alright it happened again today. The screen turned black while playing Wolfenstein but my PC was still running so I had to restart it. The only difference this time was that my screen was not red on reset but normal as it should be. I'm gonna start preparing on buying my self a new gpu, the only problem is that I have no idea if it even is my gpu dying?

The hell am I to do?
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