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Hi guys,

I want to upgrade my RAM to more than 12GB and low profile enough to use a Noctua DH 15.

I do 3D rendering on my machine and no gaming.

I'm looking at getting two sets of this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML8GX3M2A1600C9-Vengeance-Profile-Performance/dp/B00569K7LM/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top#productDetails

I'm looking through my mobo manual and, well...I've never understood how to decide on RAM.

I'm going to upgrade to an i7 980x and thought the RAM and cooler would be good to do too.

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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You need to have matching ram... at least that is certainly MORE than ideal as to have non matching sticks can cause some serious stability issues. You need to scrap your current sticks and go 3x8GB, or find your same sticks and go 6x4GB. Also, your board supports 24GB... be sure it can run 8GB DIMMs. You may be forced to get 6x4GB...

Honestly, unless you are getting a hell of a deal on the 980x, you may be better off upgrading to a modern platform like the Z97/4770K (which is much faster than your 930 already...)

Also, what application do you use for rendering? Can it use the GPU? If so, you may be better off getting a GPU that will work with your application.
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Hmm, the manual says 'You may only install 1GB, 2GB and 4GB unbuffered and non-ECC DDR3 DIMMs into the DIMM sockets.'

I don't really know what it means by 'unbuffered' and 'non-ECC' but I'm guessing I am limited to 4GB per slot?

I've found a 980x for £300...I've been trying to decide on what to do for a few days now tbh.

I will be taking out all my RAM. My RAM atm is using all 6 slots at 2GB per slot, so I'm trying to find the best RAM that will put me to at least 16GB and is low profile enough for the Noctua NH-D15.

Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by 8564dan View Post

Hmm, the manual says 'You may only install 1GB, 2GB and 4GB unbuffered and non-ECC DDR3 DIMMs into the DIMM sockets.'

I don't really know what it means by 'unbuffered' and 'non-ECC' but I'm guessing I am limited to 4GB per slot?

I've found a 980x for £300...I've been trying to decide on what to do for a few days now tbh.

I will be taking out all my RAM. My RAM atm is using all 6 slots at 2GB per slot, so I'm trying to find the best RAM that will put me to at least 16GB and is low profile enough for the Noctua NH-D15.

Thanks again.

ECC ram is primarily server based error correction memory. Regular consumer memory is Non-ECC thumb.gif
Yes your board based on the spec description you gave is limited to 4GB per slot. You might also check for new BIOS on the boards webpage to see if they may have expanded it to 8GB from an update.

You can use a mix of memory so long as all the memory can run at the same settings. So you could buy combination of memory that all runs at 1600 speed at 1.5volts and leave the memory settings on auto. If you run into issues just set the timings manually in the BIOS for the slowest memory.

For ram options you don't have to get performance memory if all you need is quantity. You can look at the cheaper consumer lines that have a little slower settings, don't really overclock, and often don't have heatsinks but would work just fine for just needing lots of ram.

EDIT....
For the memory...

I don't think I'm wrong but what it states is that the board supports a max of 24 GB over triple channel. So 4GB x 3 slots = 12GB.
You have 6 slots total = 24 GB of ram.
Edited by Aparition - 5/15/14 at 1:06pm
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post #5 of 13
4GB per slot, yep. So you would want, so you can take advantage of the triple channel your board offers, 6x4GB. Anything less and it will use dual channel and you can lose performance (depends).

ECC and unbuffered is essentially for servers.

$500 for a 980x? No... Upgrade your rig man... there is no way I would put $500 into an X58 platform today. No way.

4770K
$150 Z97 motherboard,
2x8GB DDR3 1866 ram

and resuse the rest of your parts. this gives you similar performance CPU wise, and a platform worth upgrading in 2 years if needed.

Again, see if the application you use supports GPU acceleration and buy a better video card if it does.
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You can use a mix of memory so long as all the memory can run at the same settings. So you could buy combination of memory that all runs at 1600 speed at 1.5volts and leave the memory settings on auto. If you run into issues just set the timings manually in the BIOS for the slowest memory.
This is asking for trouble... auto or not. Do not mix and match sticks if you can help it.
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This is asking for trouble... auto or not. Do not mix and match sticks if you can help it.

True, just if you are stuck with mismatch ram it is OK to try it.

OP here is a general list of triple channel kits. I was not able to find a low profile set offhand for triple channel.
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post #7 of 13
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Ok, thanks alot so far smile.gif

Seems I might wait a bit and upgrade fully.

I have a list of components, how do they look?

4770k

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i7-4770k-1150-haswell-quad-core-35ghz-39ghz-turbo-1250mhz-gpu-35x-ratio-84w-retail?utm_source=google+shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=CKWug_bfrr4CFagEwwodMy0A4g

Asus Maximus VII Gene

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-615-AS&adword=google/pla/unoptimized&gclid=CNKZucffrr4CFXLJtAodbmIAPA

Noctua NH-D15

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-026-NC&adword=google/pla/unoptimized&gclid=CMLEkpXgrr4CFWTlwgod_RYA5A

Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2x8GB) ..... I would buy another to make 32GB later

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CML16GX3M2A1600C9-Vengeance-Profile-Performance/dp/B009YOJZ5E/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1400185223&sr=8-6&keywords=corsair+vengeance+low+profile

So, all of this comes to around £600.

The 980x is £300.

So, it's double the price, but is it worth it?

I will still keep my 5870....I'm waiting for the 780 to go cheaper.

Is there anything you would change?
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post #8 of 13
You can drop the board to a lesser model... you do not need a Gene...

Is there any reason you 'need' that NHD15? Are you overclocking to the moon? Why not a Hyper 212 EVO for 1/2 the cost? That will get a 4770K to 4.3Ghz+ (depending on quality of CPU and airflow/ambient temps etc).

As far as is it worth it? I think so... but its not my cash. As I mentioned earlier there is no way in hell I would upgrade to a $500 CPU on a 3 generations old platform. I would build new so in another couple of years there is a least a potential for an upgrade path.
post #9 of 13
You basically have some top shelf components except for that memory. Corsair Vengeance is basically cheap memory with an aggressive-looking heat sink. Personally, I haven't had the best luck with it recently.

I would go with the Z97 setup rather than put any more money into X58. That 4770K will beat the 980X in the vast majority of things you could throw at it. The Z97 platform will also bring you some additional features like native USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s.
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Originally Posted by Earth Dog View Post

You can drop the board to a lesser model... you do not need a Gene...

Is there any reason you 'need' that NHD15? Are you overclocking to the moon? Why not a Hyper 212 EVO for 1/2 the cost? That will get a 4770K to 4.3Ghz+ (depending on quality of CPU and airflow/ambient temps etc).

As far as is it worth it? I think so... but its not my cash. As I mentioned earlier there is no way in hell I would upgrade to a $500 CPU on a 3 generations old platform. I would build new so in another couple of years there is a least a potential for an upgrade path.

I'm a big fan of Noctua in general, so that's why I want to stick with them. I was either going to go for the Noctua or the Corsair H100i. I also know the Thermaltake Silver Arrow was good...there is probably a newer version now.

What board would you suggest? I just want to future proof as much as I can if I'm going to do this upgrade.
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You basically have some top shelf components except for that memory. Corsair Vengeance is basically cheap memory with an aggressive-looking heat sink. Personally, I haven't had the best luck with it recently.

I would go with the Z97 setup rather than put any more money into X58. That 4770K will beat the 980X in the vast majority of things you could throw at it. The Z97 platform will also bring you some additional features like native USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s.

What RAM would you suggest? Why haven't you had the best of luck with it, if you don't mind me asking?

The RAM I go with, I just want to make sure it's good RAM and allows enough room for the fans on the Noctua NH-D15

Thanks again for the replies smile.gif
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