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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
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  • 11% (50)
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post #11441 of 11909
I've just been looking at X79 and E5 1650 from eBay. Looks like about $250 for a board and $150 for a CPU.

Rizen 1700 is $440 here. Gaming 5 is $289 and 3600 16 Gb $275.

I could go cheaper but not planning on buying just looking and pricing.

See, X58 and xeon is awesome. But I can't help myself but to look for more. Maybe an overclocked E5 1650 on X79 will be a stride forward.....
For half the price of Rizen. Maybe V1.... V2.... Or V3. Anyone know?
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X79 has and will always be a side grade to the X58 overclocked or not, especially if you have THE SR-2 1366. Back in 2014 this was indeed the case and still is today. Back it was a way to opt out of spending hundreds or over a thousand. We all want more and the upgrade itch will always be there. If you go X79 it's still old technology and the upgrade itch will be right there to follow you. Personally I'm focused on up to date tech at this point, but in reality the Xeon is still performing well.

We have a lot of cool tech today, but I can get just about anything I need through the powerful PCie slots. Outside of the e-peen benchmarks no average user is seeing any major jumps. Web browsers,Games, Youtube, Twitch and other functions are going to perform the same.
    
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There is an E5-1680 eight core unlocked, but it is selling for big bucks.
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Anyone know which E5 gives the best single core performance considering which version clocks the highest? As in, V1, V2, or V3?

Still going to cost me $900 - $1000 to go Rizen 1700/mobo/ram.

X58 Xeon 6 core @ 4.6 still got legs!

Most likely V3 since it is the newest of those three.
It is Sandybridhe v1, Ivybridge v2, and Haswell V3.
Keep in mind the V3 is not the same socket 2011 as the V1 and v2 x79 chipset. V3 is a LGA 2011-3 x99 chipset
I am pretty sure the V4 and higher are locked up.

I have both i7 and xeon versions of the V1 and V2 CPUs. That is E5-1650-i7-3930k and E5-1650V2-i7-4930K They overclock very well to 4.4 - 4.7
My v1 were at 4.4 at 1.3v going higher needed more volts.

My only Haswell is not a xeon or a K so it does not overclock, so I can not help you there.

One other thing is x79 motherboards were expensive when they were new.
Used on ebay are expensive and have help their value much like the x58 has. Good luck finding a new one.
All though I did just buy 5 new bulk P9X79 WS motherboards for under a grand. Had to buy 5 of the dang things.
No retailer is selling single boards anymore.
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There is an E5-1680 eight core unlocked, but it is selling for big bucks.
Most likely V3 since it is the newest of those three.
It is Sandybridhe v1, Ivybridge v2, and Haswell V3.
Keep in mind the V3 is not the same socket 2011 as the V1 and v2 x79 chipset. V3 is a LGA 2011-3 x99 chipset
I am pretty sure the V4 and higher are locked up.

I have both i7 and xeon versions of the V1 and V2 CPUs. That is E5-1650-i7-3930k and E5-1650V2-i7-4930K They overclock very well to 4.4 - 4.7
My v1 were at 4.4 at 1.3v going higher needed more volts.

My only Haswell is not a xeon or a K so it does not overclock, so I can not help you there.

One other thing is x79 motherboards were expensive when they were new.
Used on ebay are expensive and have help their value much like the x58 has. Good luck finding a new one.
All though I did just buy 5 new bulk P9X79 WS motherboards for under a grand. Had to buy 5 of the dang things.
No retailer is selling single boards anymore.

Yeah I've seen the 1680 on ebay. $1700. Could almost buy a whole new box for that. It would want to do about 5.4 Ghz to tempt me at that price.
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X79 has and will always be a side grade to the X58 overclocked or not, especially if you have THE SR-2 1366. Back in 2014 this was indeed the case and still is today. Back it was a way to opt out of spending hundreds or over a thousand. We all want more and the upgrade itch will always be there. If you go X79 it's still old technology and the upgrade itch will be right there to follow you. Personally I'm focused on up to date tech at this point, but in reality the Xeon is still performing well.

We have a lot of cool tech today, but I can get just about anything I need through the powerful PCie slots. Outside of the e-peen benchmarks no average user is seeing any major jumps. Web browsers,Games, Youtube, Twitch and other functions are going to perform the same.

Yes I think you are right. I've been running a few basic benchmarks here and there to get an idea of where this 5675 sits. Overclocked, it's similar to a stock 5930 but there's not much in it. I'n not really that interested in running a ton of benchmarks to see how my system does. I kind of have a feel for it after all these years. The "upgrade itch" is never scratched to anyone's satisfaction for too long. But the hole in my wallet has stung bitterly at times in vain attempts to gain bigger better faster. If tech advances could keep up with my upgrade itch requirements I'd be broke for sure. The tech advances, amazing as they are, have always been a bit slow for my liking. Hard to please!
But in retrospect, the increase of performance of the X58 Xeon upgrade is a no brainer bargain!

The X5675 fits my board and ram perfectly. 23 x 200 with 1600 ram, as much voltage as I dare and temps out of the sweat band.

I'm guessing but it seems like about 30 to 50 % more CPU grunt. Makes quite a noticeable jump in overall system performance.
For $100 or so how could you not?
post #11445 of 11909
Don't look at the $1700 one, look at the $799 and lower ones.teaching.gif
post #11446 of 11909
I was playing around with memory speed and I was able to hit 2100mhz pretty easily. Typically run at 1800mhz 8-9-8-24-1T @ 1.50v but just jumping to 2100mhz 9-10-9-27-1T only required 1.54v and I've been stable for a couple hours on OCCT (large) so far. The rest of my overclock is untouched.

Main question here is if it's -safe- to keep it at 2100mhz vs running 1800mhz for a 24/7 overclock?

EDIT:: I should specify It's a 6x4gb 1rx8 setup.
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As long as it's stable and the voltages are within recommended specs it's safe. For best performance see if you can set the uncore to x1x8 or x2.0.
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Don't look at the $1700 one, look at the $799 and lower ones.teaching.gif

Yeah I found one for $799. Nothing cheaper unfortunately. Don't have an X79 or 2011 board so was hoping it would be possible to beat a Rizen upgrade done cheaper by going the Xeon path. We shall see. I don't particularly have a requirement or need for more system power. I don't do bench marking for kicks although it is a great way to compare systems and components. Running Xeons in desktop boards is new for me. Didn't know it was possible until about a month ago. Much to learn....
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What do you guys recommend for cooling for dual X5670's? Will they max out 24/7h on air?
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What do you guys recommend for cooling for dual X5670's? Will they max out 24/7h on air?
If you're running stock, cheap tower coolers will do fine. If you're running overclocked, High end air, CLC, or (if you've got the money) a full water loop will need to be done.
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