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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
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post #11571 of 11907
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Do you mean the uncore multi or the CPU? SR2's doesn't seem to like high BCLK.

The uncore multi. Go down to 3420 or 3240 and see how stable your overclock is.
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post #11572 of 11907
Will do thumb.gif Need to get rid of the old Haswell/Broadwell uncore clocking habit tongue.gif
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post #11573 of 11907
General rule of thumb: higher uncore frequency is more performance. As has been said, the minimum ratio for Westmere is 3:2, which more or less allowed the possibility for RAM speeds to exceed 2000 MHz since achieving stability with uncore over 4000 MHz was nigh impossible. I have my RAM currently set to 1600 MHz with uncore at 3600 MHz because it's practically free performance. Only cost is a little more voltage and heat.
post #11574 of 11907
Why this chip isn't dead yet : LINK ?
Isn't Westmere suppose to die at ~1,4V QPI ?

Just FYI : I tried 1,52V but it crashed after loading Windows.
~1,5V is "stable".
Edited by agentx007 - 4/18/17 at 12:08pm
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post #11575 of 11907
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General rule of thumb: higher uncore frequency is more performance. As has been said, the minimum ratio for Westmere is 3:2, which more or less allowed the possibility for RAM speeds to exceed 2000 MHz since achieving stability with uncore over 4000 MHz was nigh impossible. I have my RAM currently set to 1600 MHz with uncore at 3600 MHz because it's practically free performance. Only cost is a little more voltage and heat.

Yep, exactly. Just wanted to make sure in case he was having stability issues that he might be reaching the edge of his uncore speed and dropping it one level could require significantly less volts to be more stable.
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post #11576 of 11907
I didn't think about it, I only paid attention on keeping the RAM to Uncore ratio at 1:2

I don't know what VTT is considered unhealthy for the Westmeres, it's been said to be from 1.35V and up but Agent's is still running.
The Xeons are cheap to replace but the board certainly isn't so I try to avoid any unnecessary strain on it.
Edited by Martin778 - 4/18/17 at 1:51pm
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I just bought 2 of these sticks: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ble8g3d21bce1
If they will run without issues, next month I will buy another stick. biggrin.gif
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For some reason that RAM is not compatible with my RIIIE? tongue.gif
 
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post #11579 of 11907
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For some reason that RAM is not compatible with my RIIIE? tongue.gif

It's not officially compatible with any X58 mainboard, but should run fine
Edited by AlxMrx - 4/19/17 at 3:15am
post #11580 of 11907
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So, you are running 1600 MHz ram on that thing. Your RAM clocks are 808.0 x 2 = 1616 MHz. You then decided to manually play with your UNCORE and raise it to a point where it sits at 7679.8 MT/s. This is roughly 3837.9 MHz as shown in the above screenshot.

The rule of thumb for stability is 2:1 which leads to 1616 x 2 =3232MHz. Now if we convert this int MT/s , 6464 which is more than stable on pretty much any X58 system out there with any chip. Having your chip running like this will lead to a decrease in performance far greater than the increase in BCLK. Nobody runs it at the minimum frequency and we all aim to raise it higher. I am running it between 3500 and 3700+ depending on how high my overclock is.

You are running 1600 MHz with an UNCORE meant for 2000 MHz RAM. Stability taken in consideration of course. Can you please run IBT with memory on HIGH or Extreme to see how it holds together? If it passes the first run I would be surprised. My chip to pass IBT at 3700 needs 1.37 QPI and 1.67 on RAM! Which is above the safe voltage. I was IBT-ing at 4650 MHz at one point and it crashed after the 8th run! My RAM is rated at 1600 MHz frown.gif.


As long as you do not exceed 1.35V on the QPI, you can run it at over 9000, however, having it stable, that is another matter. You have unlinked certain parts in your overclocking chain which have well defined relationships.

Over clocked to 4.65 GHZ, I'm running most of the voltages on AUTO so was a bit concerned about QPI/Vtt so manually set it to 1.335Volts. So I did 10 runs of IBT at HIGH setting as it won't run on Very high as I am using 6Gb RAM.
Temps were holding at about 75 deg with an occasional peak of 80 Deg.



I did another IBT run at 4.65Ghz with QPI/VTT 1.355 Volts at NB/UNCORE 3837 MHz and RAM at 1616 Mhz CL 8 8 8 24 88 triple channel. Best Cinebench CPU of 1089.




Seems stable. What do you reckon?
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