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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
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post #4841 of 12603
You should really be comparing CPUs based on power draw or heat output, and even then you should focus on single threaded performance. We know 6 is more than 4, we don't need benchmarks to prove that, most of us at least tongue.gif
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well the thing is even if its single core, x58 single core performance is fast enough, there is no application that i run on my friend's haswell that sits besides my x58 that i saw a significant slow down on my x58, not to mention with dx12 hits, multi core is gonna be a huge advantage. .
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post #4843 of 12603
I wouldn't say quad cores will be at a "huge" disadvantage with DX12. Those processors will still benefit quite a bit.
post #4844 of 12603
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Originally Posted by jura11 View Post

Hi there

I've R9 290 Tri-X OC and I don't have any issue,I've used MSI Afterburner.but after I've go few issues I'm using now Sapphire Trixx with which I don't have any issues.My PC is 24/7 turned on and I do heavily use for GPU rendering and I don't have any issues with the BSOD which can be related to GPU

Not sure I do have installed only older drivers or drivers which has come with my GPU as with newer drivers I do have few issues in some 3D SW

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura

Thanks for the response. Seems to be a strange issue that doesn't happen to everyone with an X58 and R9 290(X) combo. I was thinking last night that I have used 2 different Powercolor R9 290 Turbo Duo cards and the reference PCB, LF R29F, is the one I have the issue with and the non-reference cut down TUL PCB, LF R29FA did not have that issue though it's dead now and in the process of RMA.

I guess I'll have to poke around and tried different potential solutions for now.
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Originally Posted by xxpenguinxx View Post

You should really be comparing CPUs based on power draw or heat output, and even then you should focus on single threaded performance. We know 6 is more than 4, we don't need benchmarks to prove that, most of us at least tongue.gif

Are you talking to me? If so, I compared my 6 core processor against several different X79 6 core processors. There is no 4 \ Quad cores here:

http://postimg.org/image/8zza822kl/
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http://s10.postimg.org/6vex6z0xz/Kana_Maru_HWBOT_comparison_6_9_14.jpg

Only hexa-core processors. The power draw is awesome as well. My X5660 hexa core performance was roughly 10% slower than the 6 core - more expensive side grade.
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I was talking to you. For some odd reason I was thinking of the z87/97 and such when you said x79. Looking at those results, performance is quite close in some cases, and for the ones that are not, the RAM speed probably has a lot to do with it.

I'm wondering what the difference is between them and the x99 platform, power to performance wise. 5 years from now we'll probably be switching to that platform.
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Originally Posted by xxpenguinxx View Post

I was talking to you. For some odd reason I was thinking of the z87/97 and such when you said x79. Looking at those results, performance is quite close in some cases, and for the ones that are not, the RAM speed probably has a lot to do with it.

I'm wondering what the difference is between them and the x99 platform, power to performance wise. 5 years from now we'll probably be switching to that platform.

Oh ok I was wondering what was going on. Hexa vs Hexa when it comes to X58-X79 in those test. The RAM does have "some thing" to do with the scores\results, but that's not the only thing holding us back. Instead of revising the X58 and lifting the limitations on the X58, Intel simply removed those limitations and released X79. They knew people would pay tons of cash for the 5%-15% increases. Even with DDR3-1600Mhz - 1675Mhz the X58 still packs a nice punch when compared to X79 according to performance based on the benchmarks.

5 years from now I'm sure X79 will still be great. I plan on skipping right past X79 and possibly X99 [depends on Skylake-E]. The prices will stay high and I don't trust second hand CPUs, MBs and RAM from overclockers. X79 doesn't do enough justice to make me leave or upgrade the X58 platform.

I do plan to stay with the Sabertooth brand though. My Sabertooth has taken a beating and the 5 year warranty is no joke either. Everything still works perfectly. This year has been much different than last year. I'm not running a ton of benchmarks anymore and treating the CPU and MB correctly now.


Edit:
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Originally Posted by ambientblue View Post

No. Sorry but the CPU isnt as good. Its still a viable option but its not even as good as x79. Believe what you want.

Results don't lie.
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Again, X58 is great still. lol

Yeah. That's what I thought. Coming within 9.77% clock for clock of X79 Extreme Edition Hexa Cores is great coming from a nearly 7 year old platform. It really shows Intel marketing gimmicks as well.
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I love Sabertooth, too. I came from a P5E crossflashed with a Rampage Formula BIOS and the difference in quality was night and day.
post #4849 of 12603
I just bought a x5670 on ebay for 145 Canadian, including shipping. I'll swap out my 6gb kit of ram for 12gb, and be good to go until something worth while comes out.
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post #4850 of 12603
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Thanks for the response. Seems to be a strange issue that doesn't happen to everyone with an X58 and R9 290(X) combo. I was thinking last night that I have used 2 different Powercolor R9 290 Turbo Duo cards and the reference PCB, LF R29F, is the one I have the issue with and the non-reference cut down TUL PCB, LF R29FA did not have that issue though it's dead now and in the process of RMA.

I guess I'll have to poke around and tried different potential solutions for now.

Hi there

What I only know about the R9 290 on X58,on some this card does cause issues and on my Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC I didn't have any BSOD which can be pointed to GPU.My card is running always OC with those settings:

GPU Clock: 1150MHz
Memory Clock: 1500MHz
VDDC Offset: 156


But I know I can't boot PC with R9 290 when is in PCI-E slot closest to CPU socket(1st PCI-E slot),this does happen only with R9,tried older GTX560Ti and tried few other cards and only on this card I do have issue,I will be testing too CF when times allows and when my friend will be willing borrow me his card

I do tried to run later drivers,but due the few issues in some 3D apps I've reverted to first driver which has been available over on R9 series,can you try install drivers which has come with yours R9 290 and try again ?

Hope this helps and good luck there

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