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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
  • 10% (49)
    More than 1 year
  • 5% (24)
    More than 2 years
  • 8% (41)
    More than 3 years
  • 11% (53)
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  • 23% (113)
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  • 41% (200)
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post #4851 of 12865
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Originally Posted by jura11 View Post

Hi there

What I only know about the R9 290 on X58,on some this card does cause issues and on my Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC I didn't have any BSOD which can be pointed to GPU.My card is running always OC with those settings:

GPU Clock: 1150MHz
Memory Clock: 1500MHz
VDDC Offset: 156


But I know I can't boot PC with R9 290 when is in PCI-E slot closest to CPU socket(1st PCI-E slot),this does happen only with R9,tried older GTX560Ti and tried few other cards and only on this card I do have issue,I will be testing too CF when times allows and when my friend will be willing borrow me his card

I do tried to run later drivers,but due the few issues in some 3D apps I've reverted to first driver which has been available over on R9 series,can you try install drivers which has come with yours R9 290 and try again ?

Hope this helps and good luck there

Thanks,Jura

I got the Powercolor R9 290 TD in January and tested all the 14.x drivers but had to revert back to the 13.12 one because the newer ones would minimize all my windows whenever I turned off my XBR-55HX950 but the 13.12 didn't have that issue. That was a driver issue that did the same thing on my R9 270 as well.

I've only been running the GPU at the factory OC of 975MHz core and 1250MHz memory. I guess I'll just be messing around with one good one I still have until my other one comes back from RMA (UPS literally picked it up 10 minutes ago) and maybe play musical GPU between all 3 of my X58 mobos. laughingsmiley.gif

Again, thanks for your input.
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I was talking to you. For some odd reason I was thinking of the z87/97 and such when you said x79. Looking at those results, performance is quite close in some cases, and for the ones that are not, the RAM speed probably has a lot to do with it.

I'm wondering what the difference is between them and the x99 platform, power to performance wise. 5 years from now we'll probably be switching to that platform.

Oh ok I was wondering what was going on. Hexa vs Hexa when it comes to X58-X79 in those test. The RAM does have "some thing" to do with the scores\results, but that's not the only thing holding us back. Instead of revising the X58 and lifting the limitations on the X58, Intel simply removed those limitations and released X79. They knew people would pay tons of cash for the 5%-15% increases. Even with DDR3-1600Mhz - 1675Mhz the X58 still packs a nice punch when compared to X79 according to performance based on the benchmarks.

5 years from now I'm sure X79 will still be great. I plan on skipping right past X79 and possibly X99 [depends on Skylake-E]. The prices will stay high and I don't trust second hand CPUs, MBs and RAM from overclockers. X79 doesn't do enough justice to make me leave or upgrade the X58 platform.

I do plan to stay with the Sabertooth brand though. My Sabertooth has taken a beating and the 5 year warranty is no joke either. Everything still works perfectly. This year has been much different than last year. I'm not running a ton of benchmarks anymore and treating the CPU and MB correctly now.


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No. Sorry but the CPU isnt as good. Its still a viable option but its not even as good as x79. Believe what you want.

Results don't lie.
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Again, X58 is great still. lol

Yeah. That's what I thought. Coming within 9.77% clock for clock of X79 Extreme Edition Hexa Cores is great coming from a nearly 7 year old platform. It really shows Intel marketing gimmicks as well.

Are you running yours 4.8 24/7? I was thinking about it, I got mine really stable at 4.6, but 4.8 would be a bit of a jump in a few games
post #4853 of 12865
I always regretted that my 16x slots weren't gapped, but man... if that 390x pic is true... and if this platform can run a 390x cross on pcie 2.0... then this pc might even last me a full decade...
post #4854 of 12865
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Are you running yours 4.8 24/7? I was thinking about it, I got mine really stable at 4.6, but 4.8 would be a bit of a jump in a few games

I "can" run 4.8Ghz 24/7 if I really wanted to with Vdroop enabled [LLC disabled]. However, I usually only run 4.8Ghz for benchmarking\gaming benchmarks etc. since the required vCore goes beyond Intels recommended specs for the CPU. I feel a lot safer with 4.6Ghz 24/7, but I only run 4Ghz 21/7 now.

4Ghz has been great for everything so far including gaming. I can stream 60fps 1080p while recording with no issues at all. I can play at 1440p, 1600p and 21:9 Ultra Wide HD or higher All of the programs I use are snappy and gets the job done. Low voltage which is usually only running 0.992v and maxes out at only 1.208v, but it usually never hits 1.208v unless I'm running a benchmarking program like IntelBurnTest v2.54 or Prime95. IntelBurnTest give me a little over 80GFLOPS as well. Low temps even on the warmest days. Plus my electric bills are only getting lower and lower.
    
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Are you running yours 4.8 24/7? I was thinking about it, I got mine really stable at 4.6, but 4.8 would be a bit of a jump in a few games

I "can" run 4.8Ghz 24/7 if I really wanted to with Vdroop enabled [LLC disabled]. However, I usually only run 4.8Ghz for benchmarking\gaming benchmarks etc. since the required vCore goes beyond Intels recommended specs for the CPU. I feel a lot safer with 4.6Ghz 24/7, but I only run 4Ghz 21/7 now.

4Ghz has been great for everything so far including gaming. I can stream 60fps 1080p while recording with no issues at all. I can play at 1440p, 1600p and 21:9 Ultra Wide HD or higher All of the programs I use are snappy and gets the job done. Low voltage which is usually only running 0.992v and maxes out at only 1.208v, but it usually never hits 1.208v unless I'm running a benchmarking program like IntelBurnTest v2.54 or Prime95. IntelBurnTest give me a little over 80GFLOPS as well. Low temps even on the warmest days. Plus my electric bills are only getting lower and lower.

Thanks, I was wondering, kind of itching to push it a little more, but I won't. I have pretty low temps for the volts I hiked it up to, over did it a tad smile.gif I just wanted to set it the highest I felt comfortable with to reach 4.62 again after coming off of linux for a year!
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No problem man. 4.6Ghz is overkill for just about everything. Great for benchmarking and gaming I suppose. 4Ghz is more than enough for sure. I'm just trying to keep everything running smoothly for another year. Well maybe 2 years depending on the prices.
    
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No problem man. 4.6Ghz is overkill for just about everything. Great for benchmarking and gaming I suppose. 4Ghz is more than enough for sure. I'm just trying to keep everything running smoothly for another year. Well maybe 2 years depending on the prices.

Oh I know it is overkill, but it and I do a lot of jumping around, gaming and benching! These cpu's are expected to last like 20 years or something as per intel, I seen (while it is luck of the draw) intel say even oc'ed to it's max it should last 10 years easy
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Kana-Maru, I know x58 is like 7 years old now but x79 is also old, approaching 4 years. X58 to x79 was never going to be a big jump but the IPC helps with gaming and new instructions help certain tasks a ton.

You don't gotta get all defensive heh
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I don't think anyone is saying X79 is worse than X58. What we're saying is the difference isn't as much, at least with these Xeons. I'm sure the gap widens when you make comparisons with the i7-9*0 quads.
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Kana-Maru, I know x58 is like 7 years old now but x79 is also old, approaching 4 years. X58 to x79 was never going to be a big jump but the IPC helps with gaming and new instructions help certain tasks a ton.

You don't gotta get all defensive heh

You comments came off as arrogant to me. I'm sorry, but I was just proving a point. 7 years is still older. Also X79 still had CPUs releasing in 2013. I performed my test in 2014 which was relevant. I was ready to spend $2,000 X79+6 core+MB+new GPUs. Thank goodness I pulled the trigger on my Xeon.

The newer IPC does help, but everything I'm running is much faster. With 3 separate RAID 0 configurations (2SSD, 2HDD, 2HDD) I'm moving and passing data quickly. As far as gaming goes my GPUs matched all of the X79 gaming benchmarks running dual GTX 670s. The results were the same. So for me at least I saw NO difference in performance so we can take IPC out of that category. Whenever I decide to upgrade my GPU I'll compare the results to X79\X99. I believe that PCI-E 2.0 will be fine.

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I don't think anyone is saying X79 is worse than X58. What we're saying is the difference isn't as much, at least with these Xeons. I'm sure the gap widens when you make comparisons with the i7-9*0 quads.

That is exactly what we are saying. I haven't really compared X58 quad to X79 quad, but I would've never upgraded from my quad to another quad on X79. I would never compare the quad to the Hexa core since it would win just about every benchmark. As far as X58 goes I'm seeing no reason to upgrade.
    
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