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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
  • 10% (49)
    More than 1 year
  • 5% (24)
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  • 8% (41)
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  • 11% (53)
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  • 23% (113)
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  • 41% (200)
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post #6291 of 12867
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Originally Posted by santi2104 View Post

90º ? wow, thats really hot man, my x5650 never goes to more than 70 with a 212+ at 4.2ghz 1.28 vcore, and im using some crappy oven style case, 90º is very hot, what vcore are you using?
You should run linx to see max temp.
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You should run linx to see max temp.
i use prime 95 to stress the cpu and it doesnt go over that
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Looks like my X58A-OC tops out at 221MHz BCLK without adjusting the PCIE Freq, any higher it locks up solid.



Also, I'm going to get one of these for my E762 wink.gif : http://www.overclock.net/t/1571849/budget-copper-cpu-pot-mounting-kits-backplates/0_100
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Looks like my X58A-OC tops out at 221MHz BCLK without adjusting the PCIE Freq, any higher it locks up solid.

Also, I'm going to get one of these for my E762 wink.gif : http://www.overclock.net/t/1571849/budget-copper-cpu-pot-mounting-kits-backplates/0_100

What is the max BCLK on your board with it fully maxed out? I want to get my hands on one of those boards. Also, are you getting into subzero for the first time? Depending on how much your going to be doing and weather your going to use LN2 or DICE, you might want to think about a different pot. That pot is nice and cheap but you might run into some heat issues using that pot with DICE.
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What is the max BCLK on your board with it fully maxed out? I want to get my hands on one of those boards. Also, are you getting into subzero for the first time? Depending on how much your going to be doing and weather your going to use LN2 or DICE, you might want to think about a different pot. That pot is nice and cheap but you might run into some heat issues using that pot with DICE.

I don't know, I haven't pushed the PCIE freq up at all. I might do it later.

And yes it's the first time, I'm going to run with DICE.
I'm not looking for anything fancy just something to play around with on the weekends.

What's the best medium to use? I was thinking Acetone, Methyl Alcohol or Toluene as they are what I have on hand and have low freezing points.
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I did some more reading about that pot, its actually not bad considering how cheap it is. You are still going to run into some heat issues but you should be able to have subzero temps with 2v and 100% CPU load using DICE. As for the liquid medium, I use Acetone because its available everywhere. I tried 99% IPA a few times but the temps were crappy...about -55 compared to -65 when benching 775. As you know 1366 Xeons run really hot so that pot is going to have a hard time keeping up when using dice. If your going to be running 6 core chips with that pot then I am guessing that you will be in the -30c to -10c range with FULL load and high voltage.

When I was benching the quad that I posted about earlier my temps were -60 to -55 at full load with 1.75v, and I have a much heavier pot. I never got a chance to freeze my X5650, but I know it runs much warmer than the quads. Should be a lot of fun man, cant wait to see the results.
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I did some more reading about that pot, its actually not bad considering how cheap it is. You are still going to run into some heat issues but you should be able to have subzero temps with 2v and 100% CPU load using DICE. As for the liquid medium, I use Acetone because its available everywhere. I tried 99% IPA a few times but the temps were crappy...about -55 compared to -65 when benching 775. As you know 1366 Xeons run really hot so that pot is going to have a hard time keeping up when using dice. If your going to be running 6 core chips with that pot then I am guessing that you will be in the -30c to -10c range with FULL load and high voltage.

When I was benching the quad that I posted about earlier my temps were -60 to -55 at full load with 1.75v, and I have a much heavier pot. I never got a chance to freeze my X5650, but I know it runs much warmer than the quads. Should be a lot of fun man, cant wait to see the results.
Alright thanks for the info. thumb.gif
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1440p.

The point is, that WoW only uses 1 or 2 threads and and a CPU with 50% faster IPC will deliver 50% more FPS. IF you have drops to 20 fps (when "a lot of action happens") you'll be getting like 30 fps on the Skylake. Even more, if overclocked past 4.7 gigs. Furthermore, I must say that sometimes I miss some of the new features. Fast EFI boot, proper Intel USB and SATA 3.0, PCI-E 3.0 and so on. And then again, the power consumption. Not just the CPU, but the whole system. x58 is known to be power-hungry and sometimes I feel like upgrading to one of those Skylake 6700k chips.

Don't get me wrong... x5650 is really awesome and I totally love it. Mine is set to 4400MHz and it's surely a beast, but then again... slowly but surely it's getting old. frown.gif


PS: 6700k isn't $1000. 6700k is priced around $400 and a suitable board can be bought for < $130. Still, you'll need some DDR4 memory for like $200, but in the end it's around $700-$750 for everything combined. Not that it's cheap, but it way less than $1300 smile.gif

I thought I would chime in on the comparison of Skylake vs. the trusty x58 Xeon. I just finished putting a new Skylake build together this weekend (Gigabyte G1 z170, 6700k, 16GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3000) added in my 980 Ti and my SSD Raid 0s. I clocked it to 4.6 GHz just like my Xeon and ran 3D Mark and pulled a whopping 500 more marks (than whats in my sig). I can honestly say its a nice new feature set to play with if you are interested (M.2 Sata express (which is useless right now, etc) but if it comes down to performance you aren't going to see much if any improvement over the Xeon + X58 even in benchmarks. If you want to do it for the fun of playing with the new tech or features then have at it, but if its you're worried about just stay with the Hex :-) I'm looking forward to getting the rest of my rebuild parts for my x58.

As a side note, its just not nearly as fun to overclock. With the x58 I had a lot more fun pulling out that extra little bit out of my system. Skylake feels overly simplified to OC and they all come out about the same 4.6-4.8ish range. And everything feels really "hot and loose" - in that I mean it runs way hotter than I feel it should (I hit 60C on my water loop at sustained load @ 4.7), even with all the throttlings disabled it still downclocks itself, it doesn't run at full speed constantly, and voltages cycle up and down even when manually set. Now, this could just all be me being unfamiliar with the new ways settings are chosen, but its my first impression on it all.

 
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Managed to squeeze out another few MHz BLCK out of my board with the PCIE Freq @ 110MHz.

Tried 228 but the freq, multi and volt readings started to go all over the place when I did. tongue.gif
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I thought I would chime in on the comparison of Skylake vs. the trusty x58 Xeon. I just finished putting a new Skylake build together this weekend (Gigabyte G1 z170, 6700k, 16GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3000) added in my 980 Ti and my SSD Raid 0s. I clocked it to 4.6 GHz just like my Xeon and ran 3D Mark and pulled a whopping 500 more marks (than whats in my sig). I can honestly say its a nice new feature set to play with if you are interested (M.2 Sata express (which is useless right now, etc) but if it comes down to performance you aren't going to see much if any improvement over the Xeon + X58 even in benchmarks. If you want to do it for the fun of playing with the new tech or features then have at it, but if its you're worried about just stay with the Hex :-) I'm looking forward to getting the rest of my rebuild parts for my x58.

As a side note, its just not nearly as fun to overclock. With the x58 I had a lot more fun pulling out that extra little bit out of my system. Skylake feels overly simplified to OC and they all come out about the same 4.6-4.8ish range. And everything feels really "hot and loose" - in that I mean it runs way hotter than I feel it should (I hit 60C on my water loop at sustained load @ 4.7), even with all the throttlings disabled it still downclocks itself, it doesn't run at full speed constantly, and voltages cycle up and down even when manually set. Now, this could just all be me being unfamiliar with the new ways settings are chosen, but its my first impression on it all.


Thanks, that is good info.
Only thing I would upgrade to is that 5960X 8 core, its a beast but that kind of money as it is getting close to phasing out would make zero sense. I will wait it out a year or two... pretty sure with my 980 Ti settings I would be smashing 18k firestrikes though with that chip which is kind of bummer to be missing out on.
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