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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
  • 10% (50)
    More than 1 year
  • 4% (24)
    More than 2 years
  • 8% (41)
    More than 3 years
  • 10% (53)
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  • 23% (113)
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  • 42% (208)
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post #6311 of 13159
Howdy everone!

Been around for a while now, still trying to read all 600+ pages to figure out what to do with this system.

Have hopped on the xeon bandwagon after considered buying a new system for myself but was gonna end up paying more than triple of what this Xeon system costs.

Anyways, I need help, I am not very good at the overclock scene, I got help from a bunch of members with my other systems ( had a x79 and am3 system a while back ) and thanks to this community I was able to get rock solid performance out of both systems.

I have a G1 Guerilla board ( brand spanking new ) 4 gigs of ddr3 1600 ( for now its good enough ) a Xeon X5650 and an hd 7770 ( waiting for prices to drop on the 980ti as its almost $1000 usd here in Mexico.

My idea is pushing this Girl to 3.6 maybe 3.8 with turbo, I have read a few things regarding what and what not to move but have not been able to find something that covers all aspects. Uncore seems to be a little confusing as well as QPI voltage it seems these can kill your chip easily, 1.35 should be the max voltage which i wont go over under any circumstance. What else should I be worrying about?

Cheers!
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6700k's power isn't in multi-threaded applications. Therefore you can't expect miracles in 3D mark. However, if you find an application which intensively uses the AVX 2.0 instruction sets the difference can be triple. And it's good for single-threaded games as well. Or not exactly "single threaded", but games which actively use no more than 4 threads. That's where it shines. smile.gif

I get what you mean. In specific cases like that it could make a lot of sense to build into the new tech, but on a general performance, all around or gaming kind of basis, I don't know if replacing an x58 xeon build would make much sense for people. I did it because I really wanted to try out the new features, but unless people have a specific situation that they would want to build for, I just don't know if I could recommend replacing the xeon.

It is still new to me so I might find more examples of benefits in my own usage. I am really hoping for pcie 3.0 benefits in my games (I was feeling like my 980 Ti might be getting bottle-necked and I wanted to get a second one) and better raid performance because I had my WD Blacks on the Sata II ports, but those aren't new to this chipset. I think my next add to the system will be a pci x4 M.2 SSD so that will be fun to try out. I haven't really got to feel any those out completely yet, but initially I really haven't seen much benefit, but its all about that frustration and fun of squeezing out what performance that I am looking forward to.
 
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post #6313 of 13159
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I am really hoping for pcie 3.0 benefits in my games

It's 2015 now and PCIe 2.0 still comes within less than a percent [yes.... <1%] of PCIe 3.0 in a lot of test. I matched a PCIe 3.0 Hexa Core setup in Shadows of Mordor.. Even SLI still is within mere frames of PCIe 3.0. The biggest stretch I've seen was 1-5fps with high end 2-way SLI setup and 0.5-3fps with a single high end card. Frame time were extremely identical. PCIe 2.0 was indeed to future way back when it released. I'm not sure when PCIe 2.0 will run out of juice and start bottlenecking, but with up to 32-lanes for SLI support, I don't see it becoming the reason "gamers" would upgrade from X58.
    
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post #6314 of 13159
With 7 PCIe x16 slots, quadfire and triSLI support, I'm hoping to get a lot of life out of my X58 setup.
 
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post #6315 of 13159
Unless some weird game comes out that takes advantage of the newest instruction sets from Intel, I really don't see the need to swap CPU/motherboard/RAM. Besides, each new generation of games use more and more resources, but the games aren't getting any better play wise.
post #6316 of 13159
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Originally Posted by DR4G00N View Post

The solder is pretty soft so it comes off rather easily, I just kept scraping the razor over it until it was all removed. The die is essentially glass so it's pretty hard to cut into it with the razor as long as the edge is even with the surface.
For insulating the caps I used some enamel model paint that I had lying around, I tried liquid electrical tape beforehand but it didn't work well at all.

Hey, to get the black sealant off can you just use alcohol and a coffee filter or would that be a bad idea, did you polish the die, if so what process did you do alcohol and a coffee filter once again? I still have to tear into this mac pro in a few days for the cpu swap... I am actually considering delidding them rather than dealing with that whole spacer and clipping the fan control plug and all that extra mess. I have my old i7 960 to practice on and reading up on a few forums. I saw some guy do it with 4 razers stuck in it, positioned over the center of a roll of packing tape, and placing a clothing iron on the heatsink for about a minute to remove his, I also followed the link you pointed out and watched the grill torch method.
Edited by DunePilot - 9/24/15 at 11:42am
post #6317 of 13159
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Hey, to get the black sealant off can you just use alcohol and a coffee filter or would that be a bad idea, did you polish the die, if so what process did you do alcohol and a coffee filter once again? I still have to tear into this mac pro in a few days for the cpu swap... I am actually considering delidding them rather than dealing with that whole spacer and clipping the fan control plug and all that extra mess. I have my old i7 960 to practice on and reading up on a few forums. I saw some guy do it with 4 razers stuck in it, positioned over the center of a roll of packing tape, and placing a clothing iron on the heatsink for about a minute to remove his, I also followed the link you pointed out and watched the grill torch method.
For removing the silicone I just used a razor because I didn't have any solvents for removing it at the time. I didn't polish the die as it's mostly pointless honestly.
I suggest doing the torch/lighter method if you can because the die is only exposed to heat for 10-30 seconds rather than 1-2mins, it's also quicker.
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post #6318 of 13159
YOU just proved that the only upgrade you can do is going to a x99 platform and that is uber expensive . i got on mine x58 rig 20k + on firestriker is a over kill for a 4k gaming pc . the big question is why changing ?
post #6319 of 13159
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You weren't talking to me but you are right.
You can no doubt score with good numbers on these old rigs, even with a single GPU.

3DMark - Fire Strike - Score 17259 http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6044454 with a X5675 at 4.5GHz.





...and Thanks once again DR4G00N. I will be swinging by the store and picking up the thinnest razors I can find on my next day off and testing out the 960 to see how it goes. If all goes well I will move on to the two X5690s and them swap them into the Mac, all else fails and not feeling confident I will do the washer method Mac Pro cpu swap.

Did you have it upside down in some contraption with all 4 razors a couple mm's into it when you delid yours? I have a bunch of cardboard laying around in the garage...
Edited by DunePilot - 9/24/15 at 6:07pm
post #6320 of 13159
Gah, so close to 5GHz but yet so far. madsmiley.png
Oh well at least I managed to beat my previous highest overclock of 4828MHz by a whole 70MHz. cheers.gif

4898.61MHz
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Vcore: 1.55V
VTT: 1.34V
CPU PLL: 1.8V
QPI PLL: 1.2V
LLC: Level 1
Uncore: 2981.8MHz
RAM: 1704MHz

http://valid.x86.fr/2dcz8y


5GHz will need ~1.6v probably and I'm not brave enough to do that on AIO water cooling. tongue.gif
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