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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
  • 10% (49)
    More than 1 year
  • 5% (24)
    More than 2 years
  • 8% (41)
    More than 3 years
  • 11% (53)
    More than 4 years
  • 23% (113)
    More than 5 years
  • 41% (200)
    More than 6 years
480 Total Votes  
post #6441 of 12869
Yeah, I decided to wait until sometime next year before I move over to W10 from 7 as I'm very much a "If it ain't broke" kind of guy.
post #6442 of 12869
Not being able to disable updates is enough for me to never downgrade to 10. The constant extra data mining doesn't increase my likeliness to upgrade either.

It's not a free upgrade, you're technically trading your copy of 7, 8, 8.1 for an OS with less useful features.
post #6443 of 12869
Probably a stupid question. After you upgrade your copy of Win7 to Win10. Can you use that copy of Win7 again legally?
post #6444 of 12869
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Originally Posted by xxpenguinxx View Post

Not being able to disable updates is enough for me to never downgrade to 10. The constant extra data mining doesn't increase my likeliness to upgrade either.

It's not a free upgrade, you're technically trading your copy of 7, 8, 8.1 for an OS with less useful features.

^ Ummm Windows 7 has the same "colleciton" features that's on Windows 10 now. MS is collecting data across Win 7\8\10\Surface etc. The only way to stop it is to do something about it. You can't continue to use Windows without updates unless you're going to be offline.

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Probably a stupid question. After you upgrade your copy of Win7 to Win10. Can you use that copy of Win7 again legally?

You paid for it. Why not? Once you upgrade to Windows 10 MS allows your to downgrade to Windows 7 for a short period of time just in case you don't like Windows 10 or run into issues.

If I feel the need to use my Windows 7 OS or Win 7 backups you can bet that I will use them.
    
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Probably a stupid question. After you upgrade your copy of Win7 to Win10. Can you use that copy of Win7 again legally?


I think the Key gets associated with the Windows 10 install so reinstalling 7 on another machine and using the same key may not validate
     
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^ Ummm Windows 7 has the same "colleciton" features that's on Windows 10 now. MS is collecting data across Win 7\8\10\Surface etc. The only way to stop it is to do something about it. You can't continue to use Windows without updates unless you're going to be offline.

Windows 7 doesn't send as much data, and most of it comes from the latest updates, which I don't have installed. I'm not really concerned that it's sending data, I just don't like having extra processes running consuming resources.
post #6447 of 12869
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Windows 7 doesn't send as much data, and most of it comes from the latest updates, which I don't have installed. I'm not really concerned that it's sending data, I just don't like having extra processes running consuming resources.

"Windows 7 doesn't send as much data".....neither does Windows 10. Same crap different OS. It's going to ultimately be the same thing on both platforms. Avoiding updates on Windows 7, while allowing the needed updates. This will still require time for research and MS is free to sneak whatever they want into the OS. It's their OS. On Windows 10 there are programs [some are open source] that allows you to possible disable\block and hopefully stop MS data capturing in a few seconds.

What I'm saying is on both platforms you'll have to look at every update closely and even then if you aren't "that" familiar with Windows other than basic usage then MS will collect info regardless. This will require work on both Windows 7 and 10. There's no way around it.

I multitask a lot so I'm used to have several things running at once and consuming resources. MS data mining isn't consuming as much as you think. Barely. noticeable.
    
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post #6448 of 12869
But then you have all that other bloatware associated with the windows store.

I've been trying it out in work and so far it's been nothing but a problem. It takes 2-3 times as long to boot, and the wireless settings are just stupid the way they have it setup. I can't even edit existing connections, which means I can't configure it.
post #6449 of 12869
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But then you have all that other bloatware associated with the windows store.

Are you just finding all of the reasons to complain about Windows 10? If so, even for the "bloatware" apps there are ways to remove those as well [nearly all of them]. As I said if you aren't used to going deep into Windows settings or the registry then it might be a bit more complicated. As an enthusiast this should be fun and not a challenge. Then again not all enthusiast are certified IT techs etc. To be honest the bloatware doesn't effect me at all and it doesn't cause issues with my everyday usage or gaming.

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I've been trying it out in work and so far it's been nothing but a problem. It takes 2-3 times as long to boot, and the wireless settings are just stupid the way they have it setup. I can't even edit existing connections, which means I can't configure it.

My boot times are literally <2 or 3 seconds. Restart\Shut Down times have always been <5 seconds with Windows 7 & 10. I've had to setup wireless conncections on Windows 10 and I had 100% NO issues. What issues are you running into? The interface is literally the same as Windows XP\Vista\7\8.1. I have a list of all of my connections. As I said it looks exactly like Windows 7 and the actual folder is just like previous versions of Windows. So what issues are you having. I can probably help you.
    
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post #6450 of 12869
Hi all,

I'm unfortunately seeking clarification that I've killed by beloved x58 :/

Here is the story:
I have an x58 EVGA SLI LE m/b and a QSES Xeon hex which clocked up to 4.2 (turbo'ed to 4.6!) with NO issued with one stick of 4gb 1866 ram. Back to back IBT max x10 runs.

All voltages were equal to or below the recomendations (1.41 vcore, 1.35 QPI, 1.9 PLL, +300mv VTT, 1.25 IOH & ICH, 1.6 DRAM)

I put in a second stick to run dual channel and it started crashing left & right just trying to install Starcraft 2. I rebooted & double checked everything was ok in BIOS and then started an IBT run.

PC turned off. Does not start. sadsmiley.gif

Things I have tried:
Disconnected everything and breadboard'ed the motherboard
Re-seat CPU (No bent pins on socket or burn marks on CPU pads)
Different PSU
Unplug all (inc CMOS battery) and left for 3 days
Reset CMOS via M/B buttons
Blown air around the M/B

There is no obvious burned/dead smell from anywhere on the M/B, and no obvious damage (balloning capacitors or burnt tracks/transisters).

When plugged in, the M/B power LED's will light up (Green and Yellow) and when power is turned on the fans will spin for 1/2 a second or so (regardless of what fan port they are plugged into). Nothing else happens.

From poking around with Mr Google this appears to be a short somewhere? (or a dead M/B...)

Any ideas? I would be eternally grateful if anyone can help!


x58 boards are rare as hens teeth here in NZ frown.gif and I really cannot go out & buy another CPU & MB
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