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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
  • 9% (44)
    More than 1 year
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    More than 2 years
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    More than 4 years
  • 24% (112)
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So you can run a say Intel/ Samsung Nvme drive as a non boot drive storage? I am not looking for Nvme to work but the device itself to work. I would like to use it in Server 2012r2 storage spaces. My idea is using two pcie cards as tiered and eight ssd connected to my IBM1015 in a simple/ two way mirror.
My other computers would be either using them as boot or storage. I don't want any more spinners drives. I am not interested in the Kingston Predator if I have an choice I would go with the Intel as storage. If the 750/ 950 won't work then I would have to use the 951 ahci from the what I read?
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It would be sweet though if they get NVMe working for older legacy BIOS's but I doubt we will see any manufacturers putting in any effort towards that goal. They want us to buy new hardware to get all these newer features. Case in point, we have to upgrade to Kaby Lake and Intels Z200 chipset just to experience Intel's upcoming Optane (based on 3D X-Point tech), which I find to be kinda a bit wrong. They have been working on 3D X-point tech since 2012, so surely they could have had Skylake capable of working with it. Its all about having something that you, me and joe consumer wants "next year". I was dead set on buying into Skylake but now Optane just looks too damn good, so now I wait some more so I can have a platform that will support Optane. I'm a little bit peeved by that....

Anyway yeah some really good AHCI based PCIe SSD's work just fine on x58 and for what ever reason some don't at all, yet should.

For now I'm just using that Samsung RAM disk Rapid mode. Works pretty good but I'd rather have speeds like that from an interface connected to a drive that supports those speeds natively.

I'm really interested i 3D Xpoint so it may be Kaby or the gen after that before I upgrade biggrin.gif
     
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So you can run a say Intel/ Samsung Nvme drive as a non boot drive storage? I am not looking for Nvme to work but the device itself to work. I would like to use it in Server 2012r2 storage spaces. My idea is using two pcie cards as tiered and eight ssd connected to my IBM1015 in a simple/ two way mirror.
My other computers would be either using them as boot or storage. I don't want any more spinners drives. I am not interested in the Kingston Predator if I have an choice I would go with the Intel as storage. If the 750/ 950 won't work then I would have to use the 951 ahci from the what I read?

I hear they will work as storage drives but don't quote me.
     
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I hear they will work as storage drives but don't quote me.
Just like many devices, NVMe works if your using a OS that supports it. The BIOS does not need to support most items in order for them to work in the OS, same with things like Printers, scanners, webcams etc, all of which can not be seen by the BIOS but still work in the OS. NVMe works great as a storage drive on any computer that has a PCIe slot, but only if the OS has built in NVMe drivers such as recent Linux and Windows builds. Remember if the BIOS cant initialize a device, the modern OS will, so long there is drivers for that device.

For that reason, I am thinking about retiring my C300's (I just use them for downloads and saved files, documents, pictures etc) and getting a 512GB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe drive and using it for storage only. Then maybe down the road using it as a boot drive when I get a system that supports booting from it. But I'm just thinking about it... Would be safer then my old C300's in RAID0 though, not sure how much longer those will last me.
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Got my Crossfire 290X Lightnings today. Will investigate bottlenecking (if any) once I get a new PSU.
post #6946 of 12437
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Just like many devices, NVMe works if your using a OS that supports it. The BIOS does not need to support most items in order for them to work in the OS, same with things like Printers, scanners, webcams etc, all of which can not be seen by the BIOS but still work in the OS. NVMe works great as a storage drive on any computer that has a PCIe slot, but only if the OS has built in NVMe drivers such as recent Linux and Windows builds. Remember if the BIOS cant initialize a device, the modern OS will, so long there is drivers for that device.


Cool cool, thanks again. Makes sense

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For that reason, I am thinking about retiring my C300's (I just use them for downloads and saved files, documents, pictures etc) and getting a 512GB Samsung 950 Pro NVMe drive and using it for storage only. Then maybe down the road using it as a boot drive when I get a system that supports booting from it. But I'm just thinking about it... Would be safer then my old C300's in RAID0 though, not sure how much longer those will last me.

Is there any performance to gain between the Raid-0 C300's and an NVMe 950 Pro?
     
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i'm here, again (need help pls)
I bought a Xeon W3530 for my Asus Sabertooth X58 (upgraded to lates bios 1402 04/08/2012).
The sistem don't boot!! mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
Start, fans starts, 2 secs and it reboot automatically.
After 2 times it stop!
(i did ClearCMOS)
Any idea ???
Thanks in advance!
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Cool cool, thanks again. Makes sense
Is there any performance to gain between the Raid-0 C300's and an NVMe 950 Pro?
Very good question. Maybe a bit better performance, and a lot better latency going with the NVMe setup. But the big plus is the safety of getting away from RAID, which I have used on and off since the early 90's with great success. I think I read someone say that the 950 Pro gives us old x58 users something like 800 MB/s which is about 60 MB/s faster then what I have with 3 in raid 0. I think that is wrong though.

Watch the video below of a guy who put a Samsung 950 Pro onto his old x58 system and he is getting 1500 MB/s Sequential. I'm getting just barely under 750 MB/s SEQ using 3 SSD's, which is the fastest this board has ever performed.

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i'm here, again (need help pls)
I bought a Xeon W3530 for my Asus Sabertooth X58 (upgraded to lates bios 1402 04/08/2012).
The sistem don't boot!! mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
Start, fans starts, 2 secs and it reboot automatically.
After 2 times it stop!
(i did ClearCMOS)
Any idea ???
Thanks in advance!

Ok this is rather vague so I have some questions for you.

-Have you tried pressing the "MemOK" button?
-What red LEDs are lighting up before the motherboard restarts.
-How do you know you cleared it? Just removing the battery and re-installing it won't clear\reset the BIOS.
-How many RAM modules are you using and are they dual or triple channel?
-What RAM slots are you using? [they are colored tan and dark brown]
-Are you sure the RAM is seated properly?
-Do you have another CPU for testing purposes? If so, did you try installing the old CPU and checking to see if the motherboard passes the POST?
    
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Very good question. Maybe a bit better performance, and a lot better latency going with the NVMe setup. But the big plus is the safety of getting away from RAID, which I have used on and off since the early 90's with great success. I think I read someone say that the 950 Pro gives us old x58 users something like 800 MB/s which is about 60 MB/s faster then what I have with 3 in raid 0. I think that is wrong though.

Watch the video below of a guy who put a Samsung 950 Pro onto his old x58 system and he is getting 1500 MB/s Sequential. I'm getting just barely under 750 MB/s SEQ using 3 SSD's, which is the fastest this board has ever performed.


This is what I wanted to see, it cleared all doubts about using it as an secondary drive. Now I can do some upgrades.
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