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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
  • 9% (45)
    More than 1 year
  • 4% (23)
    More than 2 years
  • 8% (40)
    More than 3 years
  • 11% (52)
    More than 4 years
  • 24% (112)
    More than 5 years
  • 41% (191)
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post #7101 of 12623
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If you are only gaming at 1080p then you'll want to reconsider for the GTX 970 3.5GB 256-Bit GDDR5 or the AMD R9 390 8GBs 512-Bit GDDR5. You have more overclock potential with the GTX 970, but the R9 390 generally does better especially when you need more VRAM. You can save the money you would have spent on a 980 Ti or Fury X since they are $650.00+. They are outside of the 1080p res.

You might as well leave HT on. On or off it won't make a lot of difference in games. It will make a different during synthetic benchmarks etc. As I stated before, 4Ghz with decent vCore won't allow the CPU to even get to crazy temperatures. It's all science biggrin.gif. Heat shouldn't be an issue with a decent cooler. As far as your BCLK and multiplier goes that's going to depend on several things. The most important being your RAM Frequency. You'll want 200 BCLK so you can reach 1600Mhz and up.

I understand the 980 Ti is a bit much for 1080p but as I said, I want it to last me at least a couple of years running games at close to top settings. Also the possibility of using it with a VR headset which are > 1080p. Plus from what I see the 970 already struggles with certain games like GTA V for example. It's a lot more expensive for sure but will have more life. I'm doing this PC upgrade with a view to getting a good few years out of it before I have to do a complete rebuild.

I here ya with the HyperThreading and will leave it on. As I said my 920 runs with a 200 base clock so I will go with that for the Xeon, keep things simple smile.gif

What about the other settings, Turbo, Power Saving etc?

RAM is ordered and on the way!, now I just need to save some pennies for the GPU and other bits and bobs.
post #7102 of 12623
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I completely forgot about OCCT which is also another great stress tool for everything. The uncore 1.8x memory is fine. You can also try overclocking your RAM frequency and increasing your uncore + voltages accordingly.

There's a specific way that IntelBurnTest 2.54 needs to be ran. I'm starting to think that people are running it and using different settings which gives different outputs. I had the same issues myself. Other times it can tell you if something isn't right with your overclock. Just make sure "Threads" is set to "Auto" and make sure all of your outputs have the same results. You can select the "Stress Level". The output should be consistent.

Having not used IBT before I literally hit the start to do the standard test. I did one test at maximum and got 34 Gflops - it seems so much lower than other people generally report so I'm wondering what could be slowing it down. I didn't want to OC memory frequency as I had bad experience with my i920 whenever I tried it and I figured that 1600 isn't so bad but then what do I know?
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post #7103 of 12623
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I understand the 980 Ti is a bit much for 1080p but as I said, I want it to last me at least a couple of years running games at close to top settings. Also the possibility of using it with a VR headset which are > 1080p. Plus from what I see the 970 already struggles with certain games like GTA V for example. It's a lot more expensive for sure but will have more life. I'm doing this PC upgrade with a view to getting a good few years out of it before I have to do a complete rebuild.

I here ya with the HyperThreading and will leave it on. As I said my 920 runs with a 200 base clock so I will go with that for the Xeon, keep things simple smile.gif

What about the other settings, Turbo, Power Saving etc?

RAM is ordered and on the way!, now I just need to save some pennies for the GPU and other bits and bobs.

Be sure to check out AMD Liquid-VR as well unless you know the GTX 980 Ti is the way you want to go. Nvidia VR seems to be tied to GameWorks [ugh]. AMD Liquid-VR SDK is a part of AMDs GPUOpen initiative. In other words developers can go and download AMD technologies for free with no fees or contracts.

Turn off EIST\Turbo and leave Power Saving features on.
    
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Be sure to check out AMD Liquid-VR as well unless you know the GTX 980 Ti is the way you want to go. Nvidia VR seems to be tied to GameWorks [ugh]. AMD Liquid-VR SDK is a part of AMDs GPUOpen initiative. In other words developers can go and download AMD technologies for free with no fees or contracts.

Turn off EIST\Turbo and leave Power Saving features on.

Yeah I am looking at all the VR options. To be honest I doubt I will get one until a Gen 2 device comes out. I just think they will have a huge improvement over the initial releases and will be available in no time.

I've always preferred team green when it comes to GPU's. Had a couple of AMD/ATI's in the past but always had problems with drivers and stuff. I'm not 100% decided yet though. I have read that new GPU's could be coming as soon as April.

What do the power saving features do on the Xeon. Auto down clock when idle whilst maintaining the same voltages?
post #7105 of 12623
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i'm so happy to tell that the E5640 works in my X58 Sabertooth wink.gifthumb.gifwink.gifthumb.gifwink.gifthumb.gif
Now, i'm ready to start overclocking biggrin.gif:D:thumb:
Can you link me a fresh and simply GUIDE to read walk by walk?? (i'm not a newbie, but my last overclock was on an old Qxxxx cpu)
I need to read too muich informations now, to do by myself.
I will be happy if any can help/link me a guide.
My system:
X58 Sabertotth Rev 1.xx
E5640 wit liquid cooler Antec 920
4x3 Corsair Dominator GT 1066
GTX 680
Thanks a lot in advance thumb.gifthumb.gif

Anyone can/want answer me, please?
I have a guide for overclock an i7 920(step by step to 4ghz) but i'm scared about settings if they are right for the E5640.
Let me know.
Thanks in advance
post #7106 of 12623
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Anyone can/want answer me, please?
I have a guide for overclock an i7 920(step by step to 4ghz) but i'm scared about settings if they are right for the E5640.
Let me know.
Thanks in advance

It's really not much different. Most likely you'll need less voltage than the 920. Leave everything stock, lower the RAM, uncore, QPI link, and then increase the bclk until it's unstable, then slowly up the CPU voltage. You could also just set it to 1.3V and see if it boots at 4Ghz, and then lower the voltage until it's unstable.
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post #7107 of 12623
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It's really not much different. Most likely you'll need less voltage than the 920. Leave everything stock, lower the RAM, uncore, QPI link, and then increase the bclk until it's unstable, then slowly up the CPU voltage. You could also just set it to 1.3V and see if it boots at 4Ghz, and then lower the voltage until it's unstable.
Ok, i will!
Can i reach 1,35vcore(max) or is better if not?
Thanks soo much wink.gif
post #7108 of 12623
Hey all,

I've had my x58 platform for quite some time. Replaced the i7-920 for x5650 overclocked to 4.4 and have been pretty happy so far. I'm planning on upgrading to 6700k in the near future for the single core performance for gaming, but won't be throwing the x58 out. I'm thinking about using it as a workstation or turn it into a NAS. Some questions:

1. Would I be better off doing video editing, etc. on the skylake (6700k) over the xeon?

2. Is my motherboard suitable for a 6 x 4 TB NAS setup? I know xeon is probably overkill, but I'm more concerned about whether if my motherboard (Gigabyte X58a-UD3R rev 2) can run ECC memory and 6 x HDDS in Sata 2. I'd probably run into network speed limitations than SATA2 bottleneck over SATA3 I'm guessing...

Thanks!
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I understand the 980 Ti is a bit much for 1080p but as I said, I want it to last me at least a couple of years running games at close to top settings. Also the possibility of using it with a VR headset which are > 1080p. Plus from what I see the 970 already struggles with certain games like GTA V for example. It's a lot more expensive for sure but will have more life. I'm doing this PC upgrade with a view to getting a good few years out of it before I have to do a complete rebuild.

I here ya with the HyperThreading and will leave it on. As I said my 920 runs with a 200 base clock so I will go with that for the Xeon, keep things simple smile.gif

What about the other settings, Turbo, Power Saving etc?

RAM is ordered and on the way!, now I just need to save some pennies for the GPU and other bits and bobs.

Hi there

I'm running EVGA GTX Titan X with GTX780 in second slot,PC is used most of the time for CUDA rendering,but sometimes I do use PC for gaming,if its worth to get right now GTX980Ti I would say no,I would wait until Polaris and Pacal are out and then you can decide

Regarding GTX970 I wouldn't take that card,if then R9 390X I would choose,I've this card too which I use her for OpenCL where this cards beats my Titan X,good example is Blender Cycles where my R9 390X is way faster than my Titan X


Regarding VR,I would really wait when those new GPU are out and then decide and I would pick old good R9 290X which cane be bought for reasonable money and still with this GPU you can play latest games with reasonable settings,I've used previously R9 290 which has been awesome card

Hope this helps

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post #7110 of 12623
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Well there you go. I forgot about that diagram. Brings back memories.

What exactly is your issue? Are you getting potential bottlenecks that causing high latency\high pings or something? Or are you trying to play online and live stream at the same time?

PCIe x1 should be more than enough for LAN since it gives you 250MB/s which is roughly 15GB a second. Of that's one way so the throughout put is theoretically 500MB/s and roughly 30GB/s. I sort of see why you think you might have a bottleneck according to that graph, but the DMI pipeline which I believe operates on the x4 link supports 2GB/s both ways. Meaning that it can handle up to 240GB/s and at the minimum 120GB/s.

Test it out and let us know the results. I hope it works out well for you.

Thanks. I haven't moved the card back to the x1 slot, it's still on the IOH X58 hub x8 slot. I've just been messing with the two Reg entries and it seems they are making a difference for sure. The ability to overclock the QPI bus leaves questions though. DMI can't be overclocked. So I am wondering if the QPI & Uncore speed makes a difference. Before when I had the Intel NIC in the x1 slot and the QPI bus and Uncore at 3.7GHz I was getting what appeared to be unregistered shots. But mind you this is all observations on a game that is still i "Pre" Alpha, lol. I since lowered the QPI and Uncore to 3GHz (18 multi) to reduce the VTT voltage as well as the other volts. Plus I wanted to see if the DRAM Speed (2022MHz) to Uncore + QPI (3GHz) ratio made a difference. It seemed to but again pre alpha. Now I'm wondering if I bring it the QPI & Uncore back to 3.7GHz with the Intel NIC on the IO X58 Hub if it will run the game better and shots will be registered.


EDIT: I decided to leave the Uncore at 3Ghz and use the 22 multi on the QPI bus (correct me if I'm wrong in calling it a bus) which brought me back to 3.7GHz again. Left the Intel NIC on the IOH X58 hub, and whether or not the shots are being registering better or not the game feels faster. This I can deal with, hah. I was worried about the high Uncore speed and volts to keep it stable but this works out perfectly.
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