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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
  • 10% (49)
    More than 1 year
  • 5% (24)
    More than 2 years
  • 8% (41)
    More than 3 years
  • 11% (53)
    More than 4 years
  • 23% (113)
    More than 5 years
  • 41% (200)
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Hi there

I'm running EVGA GTX Titan X with GTX780 in second slot,PC is used most of the time for CUDA rendering,but sometimes I do use PC for gaming,if its worth to get right now GTX980Ti I would say no,I would wait until Polaris and Pacal are out and then you can decide

Regarding GTX970 I wouldn't take that card,if then R9 390X I would choose,I've this card too which I use her for OpenCL where this cards beats my Titan X,good example is Blender Cycles where my R9 390X is way faster than my Titan X


Regarding VR,I would really wait when those new GPU are out and then decide and I would pick old good R9 290X which cane be bought for reasonable money and still with this GPU you can play latest games with reasonable settings,I've used previously R9 290 which has been awesome card

Hope this helps

Thanks,Jura

Thanks for your thoughts!

The thing with GPU's is that you can go on and on waiting for the next best thing. Yes I could wait a few months for Pascal, but then a few months from there will be an even better model. And on and on it goes. The reality is I want to upgrade my computer in the next month or two and the 980 Ti is about the best available for performance and price. I only game at 1080p so I'm sure it will be a good card for me for at least a couple of years, that's enough for me. In a few years I will be doing a complete rebuild including motherboard and new top of the line CPU. Then I will also get the latest and greatest GPU too.

The 980 Ti should comfortably play the latest games at close to max settings for the next couple of years. Especially with the crappy Gen 8 consoles we have holding development back.

I have got to save some money for the GPU in the next couple of months, when the time comes I will see what is happening with Pascal and re-asses the situation before I start. The main plus of Pascal I see at the moment is better Direct X 12 integration.

Thanks.
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Ok, i will!
Can i reach 1,35vcore(max) or is better if not?
Thanks soo much wink.gif

If you want the CPU to last I would not go above 1.35v.
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Originally Posted by X584EVA View Post

Thanks for your thoughts!

The thing with GPU's is that you can go on and on waiting for the next best thing. Yes I could wait a few months for Pascal, but then a few months from there will be an even better model. And on and on it goes. The reality is I want to upgrade my computer in the next month or two and the 980 Ti is about the best available for performance and price. I only game at 1080p so I'm sure it will be a good card for me for at least a couple of years, that's enough for me. In a few years I will be doing a complete rebuild including motherboard and new top of the line CPU. Then I will also get the latest and greatest GPU too.

The 980 Ti should comfortably play the latest games at close to max settings for the next couple of years. Especially with the crappy Gen 8 consoles we have holding development back.

I have got to save some money for the GPU in the next couple of months, when the time comes I will see what is happening with Pascal and re-asses the situation before I start. The main plus of Pascal I see at the moment is better Direct X 12 integration.

Thanks.

The Fury X actually over took the 980 Ti. AMD drivers have been on point and have clearly increased the overall performance. I actually posted some of my performance increases here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1461359/official-xeon-x5660-x58-review-discussion-and-xeon-l5639-benchmarks-inside/5740#post_24839418

Those were stock clocks as well. I haven't felt the need to overclock my Fury X @ 1440p or 4K since the performance has been great. I wrote a review on the Fury X as well on my blog, but it's sort of outdated now. I wrote it last summer when I first got my hands on the Fury X using older drivers. It needs a update since the newer drivers has definitely increased the overall performance.

I understand you as well. It's hard delaying a purchase since there will always be something new coming every 6 to 8 months and you don't want to wait forever. As far as Direct X 12 goes a R9 290X can perform as much work as a 980 Ti. Yes a late 2013 AMD GPU is keeping up with a mid-2015 Nvidia GPU. I haven't seen many test since last August-October, but the 290X was matching in the 980 Ti in DirectX 12 test and benchmarks [that ashes game as well]. Not only matching, but outperforming the 980 Ti. AMD older GPUs and newer GPUs are ready for DX12 and Vulcan for sure.

You can't go wrong with the 980 Ti. I'm just waiting to see how long it's going to be supported down the line.
    
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Thanks for your thoughts!

The thing with GPU's is that you can go on and on waiting for the next best thing. Yes I could wait a few months for Pascal, but then a few months from there will be an even better model. And on and on it goes. The reality is I want to upgrade my computer in the next month or two and the 980 Ti is about the best available for performance and price. I only game at 1080p so I'm sure it will be a good card for me for at least a couple of years, that's enough for me. In a few years I will be doing a complete rebuild including motherboard and new top of the line CPU. Then I will also get the latest and greatest GPU too.

The 980 Ti should comfortably play the latest games at close to max settings for the next couple of years. Especially with the crappy Gen 8 consoles we have holding development back.

I have got to save some money for the GPU in the next couple of months, when the time comes I will see what is happening with Pascal and re-asses the situation before I start. The main plus of Pascal I see at the moment is better Direct X 12 integration.

Thanks.

Hi there

Yes agree on this waiting on next big thing,but this happen to me in past with few things like with cars or GPU etc I remember when I bought GTX780 and then Ti has come and similar like friend I told don't buy Titan X,but wait on Ti.but he bought two Titan X which has been in his case useless as he never used them and later he sold one to me and later he sold next one and bought two Fury X

Regarding going with Ti right now,right now TI doesn't support full DX12 and if will be fast or good enough in VR hard to judge and if Ti will be able to play newer games in couple of years,I wouldn't bet on that,I remember when my friend bought 780Ti and he expected same,but when come out 9xx series he started to struggle in some games

I wouldn't say consoles holding back development,its developers which are holding back,how to say,where you sold more games on PC or consoles and if you do game which is better on PC like on PS4 or X1 then yours sales can suffer,but sometimes is down to developers itself which don't want to push boundaries because if they do game which can or will be playable only with Ti or Titan X then how many games they can sold

Plus Gameworks which is killing games itself and many games are so badly optimized and due this I rather play games on PS3 or PS4,this is enough for me,if I want play game with better graphics then I can play,but right now I enjoy play with joypad if I can

DX12 that's the question for me too,if will be worth to wait,but I'm looking forward on GPUOpen right now and OpenCL 2.0,as next card if AMD port some CUDA renderers to native then I'm willing jump the ship and go again with red and same like with their CPU "Zen",if performance will be good enough and have 32 cores plus off course price then again I'm willing to go with AMD,as I wanted to go with X99 2011 as next platform,but looking like I will wait to end of the year and then decide

Hope this helps there

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To be honest I would love to just get a 970 OC. It's a much better price for what I want to be throwing at this old system. The problem is I know it will annoy me when it struggles with certain games and I will have wished I went with the better card.

Again I am only gaming at 1080p, but I also would like to be running at a locked 60fps. From several tests of some of the big latest games I see it falls short on max settings.

Your Fury X findings are interesting. Is a standard waterblock available for that card? I don't like it's "Mini Loop" setup and want a card I can integrate into my current water loop setup.

Other problems waiting for Pascal etc are that there will likely be two models at release. One high end at a ridiculous price and out of the question. The other more affordable and probably not that much better than the 980 Ti, if at all in real world use. That's my guess anyway. Plus again how much is an old CPU and PCIe 2 going to bottleneck it?

Edit - I see that a standard water block is available for the Fury X. Interesting, I will do some research on it!
Edited by X584EVA - 2/11/16 at 5:06am
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To be honest I would love to just get a 970 OC. It's a much better price for what I want to be throwing at this old system. The problem is I know it will annoy me when it struggles with certain games and I will have wished I went with the better card.

Again I am only gaming at 1080p, but I also would like to be running at a locked 60fps. From several tests of some of the big latest games I see it falls short on max settings.

Your Fury X findings are interesting. Is a standard waterblock available for that card? I don't like it's "Mini Loop" setup and want a card I can integrate into my current water loop setup.

Other problems waiting for Pascal etc are that there will likely be two models at release. One high end at a ridiculous price and out of the question. The other more affordable and probably not that much better than the 980 Ti, if at all in real world use. That's my guess anyway. Plus again how much is an old CPU and PCIe 2 going to bottleneck it?

Edit - I see that a standard water block is available for the Fury X. Interesting, I will do some research on it!

Well yeah there are standard water blocks available for the Fury X.

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You can find others as well. The prices aren't that bad either. At least not from what I've seen in the past. I personally have no issues with the water cooler that comes with the Fury X. It does it's job well. Even during the summer days. Actually it's nothing short amazing. I've never seen a high end card keep temps so low. Crysis 3 is known to scorch GPUs, but it is no match for the Fury X. The temps inside of my case is much lower as well since I don't have heat rising from the card. Since you already have a custom water loop setup you shouldn't have problems with the Fury X if you decide to go that route.

PCie 2.0 hasn't been bottlenecked yet. My X58-Pcie 2.0 Fury X matches a X99-PCie 3.0 + Fury X benchmark in Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor 6GB 100% maxed. PCIe 2.0 still has plenty of bandwidth and DirectX12 & Vulcan should provide more life for the X58.
    
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Well yeah there are standard water blocks available for the Fury X.

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You can find others as well. The prices aren't that bad either. At least not from what I've seen in the past. I personally have no issues with the water cooler that comes with the Fury X. It does it's job well. Even during the summer days. Actually it's nothing short amazing. I've never seen a high end card keep temps so low. Crysis 3 is known to scorch GPUs, but it is no match for the Fury X. The temps inside of my case is much lower as well since I don't have heat rising from the card. Since you already have a custom water loop setup you shouldn't have problems with the Fury X if you decide to go that route.

PCie 2.0 hasn't been bottlenecked yet. My X58-Pcie 2.0 Fury X matches a X99-PCie 3.0 + Fury X benchmark in Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor 6GB 100% maxed. PCIe 2.0 still has plenty of bandwidth and DirectX12 & Vulcan should provide more life for the X58.

Sweet!

Yeah I have been looking at the Fury X and water blocks today, plenty of options available. Sadly everything I read about it is bad news and it falls short of the 980 Ti, even with it's new drivers. I'm yet to find anything real positive about it that could sway me in it's direction.

Good news of the day. Quantum Break coming to Windows 10 at launch. First full DirectX 12 game!
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Sweet!

Yeah I have been looking at the Fury X and water blocks today, plenty of options available. Sadly everything I read about it is bad news and it falls short of the 980 Ti, even with it's new drivers. I'm yet to find anything real positive about it that could sway me in it's direction.

Good news of the day. Quantum Break coming to Windows 10 at launch. First full DirectX 12 game!

Don't believe everything you read. If I did believe everything I read I would buy Call of Duty every 12 months or I would've gotten a GTX 970 with it's 3.5GB issues or paid $100+ more on a GTX 980 Ti I was checking out before buying the Fury X. There's also a Fury Nano [price drop $500] that performs similar and even better than the GTX 980 [non Ti] above 1080p, There are water blocks available for the Fury Nano as well. Anyways I decided to go with the Fury X for several reasons. My last GPUs were GTX 670s. I want with the Red Team this time around. DirectX 12 and Vulkan is based on AMDs Mantle and AMD GPUs are ready for asynchronous compute. DX12\Vulcan will provide less CPU overhead & multi-core support. Which means AMD drivers & older\newer GPUs will perform much better since the GPUs were built around that functionality years ago. I'm just waiting on DX12\Vulkan to drop. AMD DX11 are getting better though.

If you want to check out my Fury X review from last year you can read it here:
http://www.overclock-and-game.com/hardware/computer-tech-reviews/40-amd-fury-x-review

The article is from last summer and uses older drivers from Catalyst 15.7.1 [7/29/2015]. I tend to follow less than popular websites reviews for games and GPUs. Money talks and I see different results from regular people like myself than big review websites who get paid for advertisements. I get paid nothing and I have no issues with my Fury X. The drivers have only made the games smoother and I run everything at stock settings. However, I game at 1440p and 4K. 1080p isn't what the 980\980Ti\390\390X\Fury X\Nano were necessarily targeting. I'm hearing Fury X HBM and Core overclocking is getting people up to 10fps with minor OCs compared to the super high 980 Ti OCs.

Nvidia has a huge part of the market so you will find many more fanboys and Nvidia defenders than AMD users for sure. What swayed me to the Fury X was the fact that it could match the aftermarket OC'd GTX 980 Ti's at stock. It doesn't take crazy high overclocks to get more performance out of the Fury X. The other reason was the parallel functions it provides for Vulkan and DirectX 12. The drivers for super old AMD GPUs are still getting love and increases in performances. I couldn't say the same for my GTX 670s. Overall with my Fury X performance, power usage, frame times, overclocking results and temperature has been nothing short of amazing on my X58 in several games. I play all of my games 100% maxed as well.

Name the game and I'll bench it if I own it. I can't wait to get my hands on Rise of the Tomb Raider.
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Don't believe everything you read. If I did believe everything I read I would buy Call of Duty every 12 months or I would've gotten a GTX 970 with it's 3.5GB issues or paid $100+ more on a GTX 980 Ti I was checking out before buying the Fury X. There's also a Fury Nano [price drop $500] that performs similar and even better than the GTX 980 [non Ti] above 1080p, There are water blocks available for the Fury Nano as well. Anyways I decided to go with the Fury X for several reasons. My last GPUs were GTX 670s. I want with the Red Team this time around. DirectX 12 and Vulkan is based on AMDs Mantle and AMD GPUs are ready for asynchronous compute. DX12\Vulcan will provide less CPU overhead & multi-core support. Which means AMD drivers & older\newer GPUs will perform much better since the GPUs were built around that functionality years ago. I'm just waiting on DX12\Vulkan to drop. AMD DX11 are getting better though.

If you want to check out my Fury X review from last year you can read it here:
http://www.overclock-and-game.com/hardware/computer-tech-reviews/40-amd-fury-x-review

The article is from last summer and uses older drivers from Catalyst 15.7.1 [7/29/2015]. I tend to follow less than popular websites reviews for games and GPUs. Money talks and I see different results from regular people like myself than big review websites who get paid for advertisements. I get paid nothing and I have no issues with my Fury X. The drivers have only made the games smoother and I run everything at stock settings. However, I game at 1440p and 4K. 1080p isn't what the 980\980Ti\390\390X\Fury X\Nano were necessarily targeting. I'm hearing Fury X HBM and Core overclocking is getting people up to 10fps with minor OCs compared to the super high 980 Ti OCs.

Nvidia has a huge part of the market so you will find many more fanboys and Nvidia defenders than AMD users for sure. What swayed me to the Fury X was the fact that it could match the aftermarket OC'd GTX 980 Ti's at stock. It doesn't take crazy high overclocks to get more performance out of the Fury X. The other reason was the parallel functions it provides for Vulkan and DirectX 12. The drivers for super old AMD GPUs are still getting love and increases in performances. I couldn't say the same for my GTX 670s. Overall with my Fury X performance, power usage, frame times, overclocking results and temperature has been nothing short of amazing on my X58 in several games. I play all of my games 100% maxed as well.

Name the game and I'll bench it if I own it. I can't wait to get my hands on Rise of the Tomb Raider.

Yep, I think AMD has still got bang for the buck down by a long shot, still can't beat a Windforce 7950 rev 2 for $90-100 used, I've built a few machines with them recently. They still do very well for most games at 1080p, and do very well in Final Cut (much better than almost any Nvidia card).

I really wanted the Fury, but the price was a little beyond what I was willing to pay so I ended up with the 390, which I am very happy with. thumb.gif
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Thanks for the input. Currently the best I have read about the Fury X is that it has caught up with a stock 980 Ti. I would be running an overclocked one at 1250MHz+ core clock.

Quantum Break releases in April and is the first full DirectX 12 game. I will wait until then and see how the two GPU's perform with it, then make my decision!
Edited by X584EVA - 2/12/16 at 6:56am
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