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post #7201 of 13142
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To hit 4.2GHz plus. Is it better to go with a higher base clock and lower multiplier, or lower base clock and higher multiplier?

Any advantages / disadvantages to either method?

I guess with the lower base clock you maybe aren't pushing the chip quite as hard?

You get better benchmarks with higher base clocks which allow you to use a higher DRAM frequency.

Higher base clocks and DRAM clocks are more difficult to get stable though.
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Well I went and did it! Got myself a w3690 under a Lepa aquachanger 240 clocked at 4.5ghz at a vcore of 1.392v, idles in the low 30's, under a gaming load it never exceeds 45c and and never exceeds 70c when benching! Will validat with cpuz when I get home
post #7203 of 13142
and wahts advantges / disadvantages of having HT on or HT off
post #7204 of 13142
It depends on the application, but for the most part there's really no difference. Some synthetic benchmarks will show higher numbers with hyper threading because they're optimized to take advantage of the extra threads.
post #7205 of 13142
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and wahts advantges / disadvantages of having HT on or HT off

If your application doesn't benefit from HT you can turn it off. Turning off HT will reduce the amount of heat your CPU can generate in the worst case so you can apply a bit more voltage and get a slightly higher frequency OC for the same load temperature.
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post #7206 of 13142
like hyperpi? with ht off i get better scores
post #7207 of 13142
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Originally Posted by heb1001 View Post

You get better benchmarks with higher base clocks which allow you to use a higher DRAM frequency.

Higher base clocks and DRAM clocks are more difficult to get stable though.

But you can use a higher multiplier on the RAM to get it back up to speed cant you?

I'm installing my x5675 soon and just wondering which is the best way to go. 200 x 21 or 183 x 23.

I think 23 is the max multiplier on the x5675 anyway, not sure though.

Also I'm too wondering whether it's best to have HT on or off. My primary use of the machine will be games where I don't think HT helps?

Having HT off should help with lower temps / voltages / stability shouldn't it?
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post #7208 of 13142
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But you can use a higher multiplier on the RAM to get it back up to speed cant you?

I'm installing my x5675 soon and just wondering which is the best way to go. 200 x 21 or 183 x 23.

I think 23 is the max multiplier on the x5675 anyway, not sure though.

Also I'm too wondering whether it's best to have HT on or off. My primary use of the machine will be games where I don't think HT helps?

Having HT off should help with lower temps / voltages / stability shouldn't it?

X5675 has 6 8 and 10 memory multipliers and 12-23 CPU multipliers with 24 25 and 26 turbo multipliers. 24 and 25 for 6 cores and 26 only for 2 cores.

With 183 base clock you'd be limited to DDR3-1830. If you want DDR3-2000 you'd need 200 base clock.

With HT off, a good 240 AIO cooler and about 1.45V you might be able to do 200x23 for 4.6GHz.

You were asking about 4.2GHz _plus_ after all.
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post #7209 of 13142
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X5675 has 6 8 and 10 memory multipliers and 12-23 CPU multipliers with 24 25 and 26 turbo multipliers. 24 and 25 for 6 cores and 26 only for 2 cores.

With 183 base clock you'd be limited to DDR3-1830. If you want DDR3-2000 you'd need 200 base clock.

With HT off, a good 240 AIO cooler and about 1.45V you might be able to do 200x23 for 4.6GHz.

You were asking about 4.2GHz _plus_ after all.

Yeah I want to hit 4.2GHz. I'm not really interested in going higher because I think it's enough and want to keep voltages and temps reasonably low. I ideally want to keep the CPU voltage at the max rated 1.35V or lower. Whether that's achievable I don't know. If I can go higher without having to push crazy voltages and temps then I might. My system is water cooled.

My RAM is 1600. If I used a 183 Base Clock and the 8 multiplier that would give me 1464. I could then maybe tighten the timings up a bit. I don't know which would be better. The rated speed is 1600, 9 9 9, 24 at 1.5V. I've seen this RAM either clocked at 1800 with same timings, or 1600 with 8 8 8 20 timings. Both with a voltage increase to 1.6ish.

200 base clock seems like the obvious and easiest choice, I just wondered if a lower clock might be better overall for chip life / stability / voltages etc, as well as how it effects the other components. Saying that my i7 920 has run at 200 for years no problems.

P.S. I believe there's a setting on the Rampage 2 Extreme Bios, where you can unlock the turbo multipliers without having to use turbo. Not sure on that though?
post #7210 of 13142
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x79 motherboards are as costly as their x99 counterparts. x99 is definitely more futureproof.
Wow! How much did you buy the Xeon for? You just got yourself another 2 years of life for your rig. thumb.gif

Asus Rampage III is a good board, but it's more of an artifact currently and priced as high as newer boards. Since you have already managed to OC to 4.8Ghz, I am assuming your P6X58D is good enough. Instead of spending money on getting the Rampage III, I would suggest you to consider looking for a good deal on Dual LGA1366 workstation boards.

What about an EVGA SR-2? There's one on Ebay, not sure if I'm allowed to post the link.
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