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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
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post #8441 of 12896
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Is the cpu / uncore frequency higher from the x22 multi than the voltage can stabilize?

Might be worthwhile isolating the bclk - have a look at http://www.techreaction.net/2010/09/07/3-step-overclocking-guide-bloomfield-and-gulftown/3/
Once the max bclk is reached you can then fiddle with everything else; including fine tuning for higher frequency.

Here is a s/s from my spreadsheet for my OC:


As you can see if I go over 3809 Uncore the system just does not work (if at 1.35 VTT) - (edit) even though synthetics were stable at 3809 I found this to also be unstable in things like PCSX2 which would BSOD; I had to drop down to ~3600 uncore to be rock solid stable.

Just document all your settings and testing - it makes it so much easier to refer back to smile.gif And good luck

That was a good read. I gotta redo my water loop, then tinker again. Thanks.
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haha PCI OC makes me nervous smile.gif - I've done it without issue before but there are horror stories all over the place

100% true.. everything PCI-E overclock related makes me nervous like a big baby!!
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Then don't use an old 9600GT. It's clockrate is based on the PCIe biggrin.gif
post #8444 of 12896
I need a server, or desktop, that can have more than 128+GB of RAM for BIG data.
Is it wise to spend like 500-ish for a 2xE5645 48GB DDR3 systerm and upgrade the RAM or just spend more and get one with LGA2011 and DDR4 memory?

I already have a x5650 with 48GB but still not enough.
post #8445 of 12896
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Originally Posted by TLCH723 View Post

I need a server, or desktop, that can have more than 128+GB of RAM for BIG data.
Is it wise to spend like 500-ish for a 2xE5645 48GB DDR3 systerm and upgrade the RAM or just spend more and get one with LGA2011 and DDR4 memory?

I already have a x5650 with 48GB but still not enough.
With that CPU you already own, you could get a dual socket board, and another X5650 plus the additional ram for much less money.

Sift though this
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xdual+socket+1366+atx+motherboard.TRS0&_nkw=dual+socket+1366+atx+motherboard&_sacat=0
And choose a board that suits you.
Add the chip and some ram, you're golden.

The 2011 board alone may cost you $400, plus the chips, and the ram. you could be close to $1200-$1300
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post #8446 of 12896
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With that CPU you already own, you could get a dual socket board, and another X5650 plus the additional ram for much less money.

Sift though this
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xdual+socket+1366+atx+motherboard.TRS0&_nkw=dual+socket+1366+atx+motherboard&_sacat=0
And choose a board that suits you.
Add the chip and some ram, you're golden.

The 2011 board alone may cost you $400, plus the chips, and the ram. you could be close to $1200-$1300

Nah, good 2011 v1 / v2 boards can be had for less:
http://www.natex.us/product-p/intels2600cp2j-custom.htm

The prices on ram/cpus there are actually about what they go for unless you get a great deal.

128gb of 1333mhz DDR3 is pretty inexpensive, it should only cost about $200.

I'd highly recommend a 2011 v1 system due to the crazy prices of the Sandy based xeons right now, the IPC is a bit better than Westmere, not to mention the extra cores. Two E5-2670's are about 60-65% faster than two x5650's in multithreaded applications and about 10-15% faster in single threaded applications.

Of course you have to make sure to get a power supply with dual 8 pins and a case that supports SSI EEB.

As far as coolers go, the Raijintek Aidos ($20) are good quiet coolers and work well with that board in a tower case, in a rackmount you'd need slim coolers.
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post #8447 of 12896
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Originally Posted by DRKreiger View Post

With that CPU you already own, you could get a dual socket board, and another X5650 plus the additional ram for much less money.

Sift though this
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xdual+socket+1366+atx+motherboard.TRS0&_nkw=dual+socket+1366+atx+motherboard&_sacat=0
And choose a board that suits you.
Add the chip and some ram, you're golden.

The 2011 board alone may cost you $400, plus the chips, and the ram. you could be close to $1200-$1300

I am not taking out my x5650. Is going to be a "new" system.

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Nah, good 2011 v1 / v2 boards can be had for less:
http://www.natex.us/product-p/intels2600cp2j-custom.htm

The prices on ram/cpus there are actually about what they go for unless you get a great deal.

128gb of 1333mhz DDR3 is pretty inexpensive, it should only cost about $200.

I'd highly recommend a 2011 v1 system due to the crazy prices of the Sandy based xeons right now, the IPC is a bit better than Westmere, not to mention the extra cores. Two E5-2670's are about 60-65% faster than two x5650's in multithreaded applications and about 10-15% faster in single threaded applications.

Of course you have to make sure to get a power supply with dual 8 pins and a case that supports SSI EEB.

As far as coolers go, the Raijintek Aidos ($20) are good quiet coolers and work well with that board in a tower case, in a rackmount you'd need slim coolers.

Beside the price, is there any other reasons for going for 2011 v1/v2 instead of 2011 v3/v4 that used DDR4??
post #8448 of 12896
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Beside the price, is there any other reasons for going for 2011 v1/v2 instead of 2011 v3/v4 that used DDR4??

No, it's all about the price. If price is no object you could always get 2x 2699v4's. biggrin.gif

If you are worried about memory bandwidth or something, you could always use 1600mhz for a bit more.

2x E5-2670 v1's will about equal 2x E5-2620 v4's in CPU performance.

If you decide to go v4 just make sure to avoid the ES chips if you want to avoid bugs or missing features. I have a pair of ES x5670's, while they work fine for my uses they don't support S3 sleep.
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Nah, good 2011 v1 / v2 boards can be had for less:
http://www.natex.us/product-p/intels2600cp2j-custom.htm

The prices on ram/cpus there are actually about what they go for unless you get a great deal.

128gb of 1333mhz DDR3 is pretty inexpensive, it should only cost about $200.

I'd highly recommend a 2011 v1 system due to the crazy prices of the Sandy based xeons right now, the IPC is a bit better than Westmere, not to mention the extra cores. Two E5-2670's are about 60-65% faster than two x5650's in multithreaded applications and about 10-15% faster in single threaded applications.

Of course you have to make sure to get a power supply with dual 8 pins and a case that supports SSI EEB.

As far as coolers go, the Raijintek Aidos ($20) are good quiet coolers and work well with that board in a tower case, in a rackmount you'd need slim coolers.


I have 2 of these Intel boards with dual e5-2670 CPUs and an Asrock dual 2011 with two e5-2670 CPUs.
They make for great data crunchers.The e5-2670 I have seen as low as 50$ E5-2660 under 50$

Memory is cheap too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYNIX-32GB-8-x-4GB-PC3-10600R-2Rx4-DDR3-HMT151R7TFR4C-H9-5-KITS-AVAILABLE-/282048282469?hash=item41ab633f65:g:4CYAAOSwMHdXRNf1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8x4GB-Samsung-M393B5170EH1-CH9-2Rx4-PC3-10600R-ECC-Registered-Memory-32GB-Kit-/172240190380?hash=item281a50bbac:g:cEoAAOSwjXRXXu3Z
post #8450 of 12896
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I have 2 of these Intel boards with dual e5-2670 CPUs and an Asrock dual 2011 with two e5-2670 CPUs.
They make for great data crunchers.The e5-2670 I have seen as low as 50$ E5-2660 under 50$

Memory is cheap too.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HYNIX-32GB-8-x-4GB-PC3-10600R-2Rx4-DDR3-HMT151R7TFR4C-H9-5-KITS-AVAILABLE-/282048282469?hash=item41ab633f65:g:4CYAAOSwMHdXRNf1
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8x4GB-Samsung-M393B5170EH1-CH9-2Rx4-PC3-10600R-ECC-Registered-Memory-32GB-Kit-/172240190380?hash=item281a50bbac:g:cEoAAOSwjXRXXu3Z

Yeah I guess the 2670's do go for a bit less now. But you want to make sure to get a matched pair. Also, TLCH723 was wanting 128gb. 128gb of 1600mhz reg ecc is around $220-240.
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