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post #8781 of 13157
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Werd up peeps. I've got an old core i7 920 that I want to replace with a Xeon. I'm kind of unsure if I should go with the w3680, or the X5690. Which one do you guys think is a better overclocker? The 5690 has a higher clock speed out of the box, but the 3680 has a higher passmark score. It's also only $125 on fleabay, so there's that. Any guidance you guys have for me would be much appreciated. wink.gif

The W3680 all the way
     
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Werd up peeps. I've got an old core i7 920 that I want to replace with a Xeon. I'm kind of unsure if I should go with the w3680, or the X5690. Which one do you guys think is a better overclocker? The 5690 has a higher clock speed out of the box, but the 3680 has a higher passmark score. It's also only $125 on fleabay, so there's that. Any guidance you guys have for me would be much appreciated. wink.gif
I believe the W3680 will have an unlocked multiplier while the X5690 will not. I might be wrong. If I'm correct, I'd go with the W3680. If I'm wrong, go with whichever is cheaper. Most of these processors seem to reach the same area regardless of base clock. This is why most people recommend getting the cheapest one you can find. You're pretty much just paying for a multiplier, or in the case of the W3680 an unlocked multiplier.
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Also what's the story with the memory multi between the two chips? I think the Xeon is limited to 1333MHz only to be overclocked, when you can use a multi for 1600MHz and greater.
     
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Also what's the story with the memory multi between the two chips? I think the Xeon is limited to 1333MHz only to be overclocked, when you can use a multi for 1600MHz and greater.

The Xeon X series do have a maximum memory multiplier of 10x (or DDR3-1333 at stock base clock). Setting 12x or higher just results in 10x where I've tried it.

This hasn't been a huge limitation for me as most decent board and chips can easily do 200MHz+ BCLK and the IMC itself generally starts to have trouble before you run out of BCLK headroom at 10x memory multiplier.

Still, if you are shooting for beyond DDR3-2200 on LGA-1366 an i7 or W3680 is probably the best bet.
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post #8785 of 13157
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Werd up peeps. I've got an old core i7 920 that I want to replace with a Xeon. I'm kind of unsure if I should go with the w3680, or the X5690. Which one do you guys think is a better overclocker? The 5690 has a higher clock speed out of the box, but the 3680 has a higher passmark score. It's also only $125 on fleabay, so there's that. Any guidance you guys have for me would be much appreciated. wink.gif

I went with X5690 because I'm using 48GB RAM and ARC lists w3680 as only supporting 24GB. I've not seen any reports of w3680 being used successfully with 48GB.
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Thanks for the info guys!!

Looks like I'll be going with the w3680. I already have 18GB of ram in that board, and will be using it mainly for a second rendering station when outputing 3D renders for clients. Also, I REALLY miss having a linux box to screw around with, so that's the other reason I wanna build it. I really wanna try and squeeze as much as I can from the processor, so I will definitely going with the w3680. It'll make a nice backup to my dual e5-2670 workstation. biggrin.gif
post #8787 of 13157
Nice. The W3690 vs the X5690, does anyone know which runs cooler. I cannot OC so multi and over clocking don't happen, but I assume the heats better than a core i7 960

Love my X5650, best upgrade from a i7 920 ever.
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I went with X5690 because I'm using 48GB RAM and ARC lists w3680 as only supporting 24GB. I've not seen any reports of w3680 being used successfully with 48GB.

Pretty much any LGA-1366 CPU will work with 48GiB of memory. The only reason the i7s and W36xx series doesn't list support for it is because 8GiB unbuffered DDR3 DIMMs didn't exist when they were validated. Likewise, the only reason the X56xx series lists support for more is because they support registered DIMMs (and three registered DIMMs per channel).

48GiB of unbuffered DDR3 is just as unsupported on the X5690 as it is on the W3680 and just as likely to work.
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The W3690 vs the X5690, does anyone know which runs cooler.

Depends on the specific samples.
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48GiB of unbuffered DDR3 is just as unsupported on the X5690 as it is on the W3680 and just as likely to work.

I thought there might be some differences in the implementation of the number of supported address bits. My i7 920 only sees 32GB when I put in 48. I thought the W chip, being a single CPU chip, might have addressing like the i7 920 rather than like the dual CPU capable Xeons.

There are plenty of reports of the Xeons working with 48GB. Including mine.

Maybe someone with a W chip can try out 48GBs so we can know for sure.
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Apparently people with Macs were able to use 48 GB with their W3690s and theorized the maximum RAM supported was likely linked to the number of QPI links. The Google search I did only brought up Mac users so I need a shower.
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