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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
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post #9071 of 12622
@Zaor great, thanks for the input! Now can we safely assume 980ti == 1070? As far as I know, the 1070 is more powerful, isn't it? Mean, it's more difficult to "push" for the CPU.

Other than that, why is the result so low in the mentioned run? Is it actually at 4.0 GHz, while the 4.4 GHz is the max possible Turbo Boost clock while TB is actually turned off in the BIOS?
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@Zaor great, thanks for the input! Now can we safely assume 980ti == 1070? As far as I know, the 1070 is more powerful, isn't it? Mean, it's more difficult to "push" for the CPU.

Other than that, why is the result so low in the mentioned run? Is it actually at 4.0 GHz, while the 4.4 GHz is the max possible Turbo Boost clock while TB is actually turned off in the BIOS?

Yes a bios mod 980ti can get up to 21500 gpu score especially those gigabyte xtreme with the 130% power limit.Forget turbo boost when overclocking,you'll just get weird results.When i first got x5670,i wanted to drop bus speed,up multi from 22,to lower temps so i enabled turbo boost (4.4ghz)and get strange results in benchmarks like cinebench like 750-800 points,all over the place whereas with 22x196,4.3ghz i would get the standard 980 points.Bottom line DISABLE turbo boost when ocing.
post #9073 of 12622
Well, bottom line, we need an answer form @kpforce1 as well as more X58 hexacore FireStrike scores. Thing is, I can't install 3dmark, it simply won't install, and when it does, it won't run. So, I can't really add any scores to the table if i ever get a 1070 myself.
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@kpforce1 I've been looking at this result:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9660821

and something troubles me. The Physics score is on par with the 6700K results, whereas the Graphics score is significantly lower thansome 6700K results. See this run for example:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/9334793

Or a seemingly crazy bench run with the CPU @ 4.7 GHz:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/8985656

Does that mean that, ultimately, the X58 Xeons do not allow the GTX 1070 to be utilized to the full extent? I mean, 1/7th of a difference is not that small, esp. given how much the GPU's cost. It'd be about 50 euros worth, for me, personally. But what I really do care about, is the potential of our beloved X58 platform.

Maybe it's the PCI-E 2.0 bottleneck? Or maybe a QPI bottleneck (in the end, another source of PCI-E bottlenecking)?

My firestrike score is a stock clocked 1070 FTW. The score its compared to is an overclocked 1070 ( additional +160 in the core and 370+ on the VRAM).
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Well, bottom line, we need an answer form @kpforce1 as well as more X58 hexacore FireStrike scores. Thing is, I can't install 3dmark, it simply won't install, and when it does, it won't run. So, I can't really add any scores to the table if i ever get a 1070 myself.

Ill find som better comparisons. Also, the 980ti is faster in a good % of benchmarks when a healthy oc is involved
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My firestrike score is a stock clocked 1070 FTW. The score its compared to is an overclocked 1070 ( additional +160 in the core and 370+ on the VRAM).
Ill find som better comparisons. Also, the 980ti is faster in a good % of benchmarks when a healthy oc is involved

But, the score is 12% higher, whereas the core clock is 8% higher, meaning it's not perfect scaling and something else is holding it back, isn't it?

Was your CPU running at 4 GHz or 4.4 GHz? I can't tell from the report, really.
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Ill find som better comparisons. Also, the 980ti is faster in a good % of benchmarks when a healthy oc is involved

Thank you!

Edit: forgot to add the most important question. What resolution is the benchmark ran at? I've seen a lot of mentions so far that at 3K and 4K the CPU doesn't matter, whereas at 1080p it does. Thus, if those FireStikes are 4K, we can't make conclusions about the CPU. Here's an article covering it all in depth (translation via google translate required):

http://www.ferra.ru/ru/system/review/experiment-cpu-for-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-1080/

The guy doesn't have access to a Westmere CPU but says that at 4.2 GHz, 1070 or 1080 is forbidden (it's in the comments where people ask him questions whether their setup is going to work).

Actually, the guy says that even a 4930K won't handle a GTX 1080 unless overclocked above 4 GHz.
Edited by CrazyNightOwl - 8/18/16 at 5:43am
post #9076 of 12622
@CrazyNightOwl the stock clocked 1070 firestrike runs I've seen are within 200-500 of my graphics score.
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Cool, that's nice to hear! Do you know if the resolution for that benchmark 3K, 4K or 1080p?
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@CrazyNightOwl the stock clocked 1070 firestrike runs I've seen are within 200-500 of my graphics score.

How high of a QPI is needed to maintain scores like this without running into a bottleneck? Would 6.3gts QPI be enough for most anything or is say 7.7gts needed if I used 175 as my bclk? And is 7.7 even feasible on these chips?
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Soooo I ordered another X5670 for a build I was going to put together for my brother and it turned out to be an ES chip. Do they typically vary in quality or are they usually hand-picked binned chips? What to do!?

Plug it in and see how well it clocks. ES chips tend to not clock as high because they were made using an older process, but it still varies just like non ES chips.
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Plug it in and see how well it clocks. ES chips tend to not clock as high because they were made using an older process, but it still varies just like non ES chips.

I think it's the B1 stepping and made in 2010 so not one of the original batches. I can compare it to my current chip and see which one takes more volts to hit certain speeds.
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