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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
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post #9101 of 13086
Looks like the ES chip is better than the one I have currently installed in the machine I'll be keeping. The overclocks are pretty different but I know the memory, uncore and qpi clocks are stable in both machines so the core clocks and required vcore should be (i'm assuming) pretty reliable for comparison.

Both X5670's, one is an ES chip (Machine 2);

Machine 1:
P6X58D-E
200bclk
4200mhz cpu = x21
3600mhz qpi (7200)
3400mhz uncore = x17
2000mhz ram = x10 (CL9)

1.35vcore // 1.30vqpivtt // 1.60v ram // 1.16v IOH

Machine 2:
P6T
175bclk
4200mhz cpu = x24
3150mhz qpi (6300)
2800mhz uncore = x16
1400mhz ram = x8 (CL9)

1.30vcore // 1.27vqpivtt // 1.54v ram // 1.10v IOH (DIRTY overclock on vcore = didn't try lower voltages)


As you can see the Machine 2 (ES chip) requires significantly less vcore to be stable. Or can I not truly compare the overclocks (for core speed) because they are so vastly different? I'm really trying to determine whether or not I should use the ES chip in my machine. The settings between the two (spread spectrum, LLC, speedstep, C1E) are exactly the same, though. Would it be recommended to use the same settings across the board OR at least use the same BCLK? The CPU cooler in Machine 2 is not as nice as the one in Machine 1 so the temperatures get a bit higher (Zerotherm Core92 vs Noctua NH-U14S).
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@xenkw0n I would swap chips between machines and see if it's the motherboard and or PSU making the difference.
     
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If it tells you anything, I ran 2000 MHz with 6 sticks of RAM for 5 years straight on my x58 classy. Then I put the x5650 in it and put it under water and ran it with 1600 MHz because there are no real benefits vs 2k MHz. 7 nearly 8 years of flat out abuse with 1.4v+ on the core and high voltages on everything else...board is a beast.

Went through 4 psu's, 15 video cards lol

I get about a 3000mb/s increase across the board when I run them at 2000mhz 9-9-9-27 (232 tRFC) vs 1600mhz 7-8-7-22 (160 tRFC). I wish there was a x20 multi for QPI because at 175bclk I'm stuck with either 6300 vs 7700... 7000 would be perfect and keep this setup real stable.
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I get about a 3000mb/s increase across the board when I run them at 2000mhz 9-9-9-27 (232 tRFC) vs 1600mhz 7-8-7-22 (160 tRFC). I wish there was a x20 multi for QPI because at 175bclk I'm stuck with either 6300 vs 7700... 7000 would be perfect and keep this setup real stable.

In every day performance and gaming there just wasn't enough of a difference for me. If you need the added bandwidth for applications sure... but the only time I tend to run 2k is when I want to benchmark.
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Hey folks, wanted to share my settings and get your thoughts and criticisms if any.
Specs:

Case: Thermaltake F51 Suppressor

MB: Gigabyte Sniper G1

Ram: Corsair Dominator 2000mhz 24GB triple channel @ 1392mhz 6-7-6-18 1.64v w/ram cooler dual fan @1740rpm

PSU: Corsair AX1200i fan @40%

CPU/Cooling: Xeon x5675 @ 4GHZ mult 23x bclk 174 LLC level 1 1.25v bios (idle 1.232 /load 1.2v) / H110i GT pump @ quiet 2300rpm top mounted 2x Noctua 140mm @ 575rpm 1x rear exhaust Noctua 140mm @540rpm 1x side Noctua 140mm @540rpm 1x front intake 140mm @540rpm Noctua 1x 200mm @540rpm Thermaltake
(All set low to keep it as quite as possible since the case sits on my desk.)

4x SSD HyperX 240gb raid_0 894GB usable space

GPU1: GTX680 MSI Lightning
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[SLI]
GPU2: GTX680 MSI Vanilla
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Display: ASUS PG279Q 2560x1440 GSYNC

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Peculiar thing... When I set it up I couldn't run prime95 latest version 28.9, it would crash the app after 45min... I tried everything I could as far as combinations of different hardware. I have enough parts to test every single component, psu, ram, cpu, gpu, and it still would crash.

http://imgur.com/tOmKNQm

The only thing consistent was that the of the three boards I have all are X58 1366. It wouldn't over heat or anything. Go up to 70c-75c but crash it would. After searching and searching I saw a post that said that the latest version of prime is not the one to use and try the 26.6 version of prime95. I did that and it passes the tests...

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2557021/prime95-test-question.html

Thanks all,

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@xenkw0n I would swap chips between machines and see if it's the motherboard and or PSU making the difference.

I do not think there will be much difference, every CPU is different, some CPU need more voltage than others, i am running 2 x X5677 ( Dual Socket) overclocked at 4.1GHz, CPU#1 needs 1.22V and CPU#2 needs 1.24V.
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Hey folks, wanted to share my settings and get your thoughts and criticisms if any.
Specs:

Ram: Corsair Dominator 2000mhz 24GB triple channel @ 1392mhz 6-7-6-18 1.64v w/ram cooler dual fan @1740rpm

CPU/Cooling: Xeon x5675 @ 4GHZ mult 23x bclk 174 LLC level 1 1.25v bios (idle 1.232 /load 1.2v) / H110i GT pump @ quiet 2300rpm top mounted 2x Noctua 140mm @ 575rpm 1x rear exhaust Noctua 140mm @540rpm 1x side Noctua 140mm @540rpm 1x front intake 140mm @540rpm Noctua 1x 200mm @540rpm Thermaltake
(All set low to keep it as quite as possible since the case sits on my desk.)


Thanks all,

Nickle

For a liquid setup those temps are pretty high for your overclock. Could just be because the fans are running on low.

With a X5675 you could also try 160bclk with x25 multi for 4ghz and run your memory at 1600mhz and uncore at 3200 for a nice even overclock (OCD).
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I do not think there will be much difference, every CPU is different, some CPU need more voltage than others, i am running 2 x X5677 ( Dual Socket) overclocked at 4.1GHz, CPU#1 needs 1.22V and CPU#2 needs 1.24V.

Yea but based off of what I'm looking at so far the one takes a whopping 1.35v for 4.2 and the other only 1.30v for 4.2 which is pretty significant since that's my desired overclock. I'll try it out next weekend and see what happens.
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Guys have a question.

Would be worth to upgrade from X5677 to X 5687?

All Advices are welcome.
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Guys have a question.

Would be worth to upgrade from X5677 to X 5687?

All Advices are welcome.

Is there a reason you need a 4 core versus just getting a 6 core? It would not be worth upgrading to a x5687 since you're overclocking anyway.
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Guys have a question.

Would be worth to upgrade from X5677 to X 5687?

All Advices are welcome.

Not really. Just overclock the X5677 slightly more if you need the higher CPU speed.
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