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Poll Results: How many years have you owned your X58 - Tylersburg platofrm?

 
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post #9741 of 12899
It could also be your motherboard if you've tried more than 1 chip in it and they had similar limits. I tried 1 processor in 2 different X58 motherboards (same model and BIOS revision, though) and the one motherboard required me to use 1.32v at 4.0ghz while the other only required 1.25v at 4.0ghz to be completely stable.
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post #9742 of 12899
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Unfortunately that's the way how it works, some cpu OC better than others, just a curiosity, have you tried to OC with HT disabled?

I know you have it enable because you need it, but would you mind to give it a try just to see how far you can OC without HT. thumb.gif

Yes I would definitely look at it without HT just for my curiosity as well.
post #9743 of 12899
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It could also be your motherboard if you've tried more than 1 chip in it and they had similar limits. I tried 1 processor in 2 different X58 motherboards (same model and BIOS revision, though) and the one motherboard required me to use 1.32v at 4.0ghz while the other only required 1.25v at 4.0ghz to be completely stable.

I also tried x5670 on this motherboard as well a month ago. And the results were similar. At 4.2GHz it was stable but anything higher required lots of voltage. You are probably correct!
post #9744 of 12899
Damn these BSOD's are a nightmare!

I wish I could pinpoint the problem. Just got a 0x124 hardware fault, the first of that type with most being 0xd1.

I've run memtest for 12 hours and prime95 for 6 hours with no problems. All temps fine too. Then all of a sudden it blue screens at the desktop frown.gif

Anyway all mobo settings now set to auto so we will see what happens now. i thought it was the GPU going faulty, still might be but maybe not.
post #9745 of 12899
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Damn these BSOD's are a nightmare!

I wish I could pinpoint the problem. Just got a 0x124 hardware fault, the first of that type with most being 0xd1.

I've run memtest for 12 hours and prime95 for 6 hours with no problems. All temps fine too. Then all of a sudden it blue screens at the desktop frown.gif

Anyway all mobo settings now set to auto so we will see what happens now. i thought it was the GPU going faulty, still might be but maybe not.
0x124 is generally due to the VTT being too high or too low for the current settings so play around with it a bit.
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post #9746 of 12899
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0x124 is generally due to the VTT being too high or too low for the current settings so play around with it a bit.

Thing is though, the overclock has been fine at 1.28 vcore and 1.265 qpi for months, heavily stress tested too. Running 200x21 and 3200 uncore. I've also tried them both at 1.3 as I know those are still within safe spec yet it still blue screened.

Everything was fine until I got Forza horizon 3. Then I started getting a few BSOD's in that game. But lots of other people had crashes so i thought nothing of it. Then I got Gears 4 and in that occasionally the game would just freeze. No crash to desktop but the screen would freeze and audio would continue. During this period I have also been getting black screen flicker for a couple of seconds. I have removed my GPU overclock and that seems to have stopped so far.

So everything to me pointed to a GPU problem. But since those games I've been getting blue screens while just at the desktop doing nothing. Can a faulty GPU cause these blue screens?

So far I've had 0xD1 (mostly), then one 0x1e and the latest today a 0x124.
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Thing is though, the overclock has been fine at 1.28 vcore and 1.265 qpi for months, heavily stress tested too. Running 200x21 and 3200 uncore. I've also tried them both at 1.3 as I know those are still within safe spec yet it still blue screened.

Everything was fine until I got Forza horizon 3. Then I started getting a few BSOD's in that game. But lots of other people had crashes so i thought nothing of it. Then I got Gears 4 and in that occasionally the game would just freeze. No crash to desktop but the screen would freeze and audio would continue. During this period I have also been getting black screen flicker for a couple of seconds. I have removed my GPU overclock and that seems to have stopped so far.

So everything to me pointed to a GPU problem. But since those games I've been getting blue screens while just at the desktop doing nothing. Can a faulty GPU cause these blue screens?

So far I've had 0xD1 (mostly), then one 0x1e and the latest today a 0x124.

95% sure that's GPU related then. Did you update drivers when this started? Try downclocking the card a little?
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post #9748 of 12899
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95% sure that's GPU related then. Did you update drivers when this started? Try downclocking the card a little?

Yes I updated drivers for the new games, but I have now rolled back to an older driver (with DDU) but still blue screens. I have set my GPU back to stock clocks. The flickering seems to have stopped but still getting the occasional blue screen.

I'm also wondering if the PSU is on the blink. It's a 1200w Be quet Pro so good quality and plenty powerful, but it is 8+ years old.

As I have said I've run memtest, run prime95, and also run Furmark for long periods of time. CPU max temps are ~70c during stress test and ~60c under normal loads. GPU tops out about 52c. Watercooled. No crashes but then it can just go at the desktop while under no load.

It's only started since these last couple of Microsoft games. I have had some trouble with the WinStore though like many others. So I'm going to see what happens at stock clocks for a couple of days and then maybe look at doing a clean Windows install. You never know.

It would be nice if the BSOD errors could give a much more detailed account of what went wrong though frown.gif
post #9749 of 12899
Hmm I have just had Prime95 crash at stock CPU clocks. Prime95 has stopped working not a bsod.

Maybe the chip is going bad, the IMC perhaps.

Then i run it again, been going for 2 hours now and all fine. It's like there's an intermittent issue with something.
Edited by X584EVA - 10/14/16 at 8:23am
post #9750 of 12899
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Hmm I have just had Prime95 crash at stock CPU clocks. Prime95 has stopped working not a bsod.

Maybe the chip is going bad, the IMC perhaps.

Then i run it again, been going for 2 hours now and all fine. It's like there's an intermittent issue with something.

It definitely sounds like a strange problem! I ran into something similar with my x5650. It would pass stress testing at 4.4GHz (no HT), then some games would close suddenly while playing. I found that I needed to disable C1E stepping (other C-states already disabled) and feed a little more voltage to vcore to avoid games crashing.

Looking at your settings, it's surprising that you were able to be stable at 4.2 HT with only 1.28v. I had gotten close at 1.2975v, but ran into problems with games. These are cheap chips, I'd consider giving it a bit more! Also, I had the best luck keeping vcore and QPI/VTT separated by .04v like they are in stock settings.
Edited by phosphene - 10/14/16 at 1:48pm
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