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I could be wrong, but on powercolor's website and from newegg it shows its 10.5" long?

 

I doubt that it really is:

 

Do some direct comparisons on Newegg in the photos between the MSI Gaming and this one. Flip back and forth. They had to increase the distance from the Powercolor PCS+ in order to get a proper shot that is consistent with their apparent photo standards. So, you might think at first that they appear to be identical in length. But, compare the part that goes into the slot, compare the expansion slot cover bracket, etc. You'll see that the distance from the camera is greater in the shot of the PCS+ than the MSI Gaming. Greater distance from camera + apparently equal length = illusion.

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post #22 of 89

29.5 cm long = 11.61 inches:

 

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34647-powercolor-pcs%20-r9-290-4gb-reviewed/34647-powercolor-pcs%20-r9-290-4gb-reviewed?start=14

 

I will make a thread to ask everyone to measure theirs. It's a 3-fan cooler, so I doubt that it's the same length as the MSI Gaming, which is slightly shorter than the DirectCU II - both of which are 2-fan coolers.

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29.5 cm long = 11.61 inches:

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/34647-powercolor-pcs%20-r9-290-4gb-reviewed/34647-powercolor-pcs%20-r9-290-4gb-reviewed?start=14

I will make a thread to ask everyone to measure theirs. It's a 3-fan cooler, so I doubt that it's the same length as the MSI Gaming, which is slightly shorter than the DirectCU II - both of which are 2-fan coolers.

awesome, thanks. now that I think of it, you're probably right. a three fan cooler is pretty much not going to be smaller than a 2 fan cooler. btw - thanks for all of your help this evening.
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awesome, thanks. now that I think of it, you're probably right. a three fan cooler is pretty much not going to be smaller than a 2 fan cooler. btw - thanks for all of your help this evening.

 

Oh hey, you're welcome. I made a thread because I'm curious now too. lol :)

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Now, let's look at the performance and see how surprisingly good it is compared to the MSI Gaming even though he will never be able to fit the DirectCU II 290 into his case!

DirectCU II R9 290: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/asus-r9-290-direct-cu-ii-oc-review-1600p-ultra-hd-4k/28/

As we can see, the temp in Furmark hit 84°C. What was the fan speed? 50%. Not bad. Ok, now let's see how the MSI Gaming R9 290 does. It should be better, right?

MSI Gaming R9 290: http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/msi-r9-290-oc-gaming-edition-review-1600p-ultra-hd-4k/28/

It hit 85°C in Furmark. What was its fan speed? Wow. 64%.

So, let me get this straight: the DirectCU II R9 290 kept the Furmark temp at 84°C with a fan speed of just 50% while the MSI Gaming R9 290 could only hold the temp to 85°C with a 14% higher fan speed of 64%.

Oh, yeah, I know: the VRM temps. Let's look at that:


Oh. Ok, Nevermind then. No problem

Like I said: I had the R9 290 DirectCU II and it's just fine. It works exactly as advertised and I found it to be quite impressive considering how hot the 290 is supposed to be.

For msinger, the MSI gaming is all he can get due to size restraints.

In other situations, even if you had a restriction of a 2 slot cooler why would anyone choose a DC2? The Sapphire Tri-X going by your link is cooler. And for anyone else who has the space, going for a 2.5slot cooler is much better (Vapor-X, PCS+). In small cases, sure the MSI gaming is what's recommended since that's the only thing that'll fit. But for people who don't have small cases there are better alternatives.
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For msinger, the MSI gaming is all he can get due to size restraints.

 

You're telling me? I thought that I was telling you! lol Like I said, "let's do this anyway even though it won't fit in his case!" (ok, that's not word-for-word, but that's basically what I said in a nutshell)

 

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In other situations, even if you had a restriction of a 2 slot cooler why would anyone choose a DC2? The Sapphire Tri-X going by your link is cooler. And for anyone else who has the space, going for a 2.5slot cooler is much better (Vapor-X, PCS+). In small cases, sure the MSI gaming is what's recommended since that's the only thing that'll fit. But for people who don't have small cases there are better alternatives.

 

This is not about having a restriction of a 2-slot cooler, ebhsimon. This is about the length of the card. The DirectCU II is too long for his case. You must think I'm really stupid! lol Why would I, a member who has been here this long who has this many posts and this many Reputation points, recommend the DirectCU II if a person has enough room in their case to fit the Tri-X? I mean damn, if the Tri-X were not too long for his case, then I'd be talking about how much of a no-brainer it is to get it! I wasn't born yesterday, you know. :)


Edited by TwoCables - 5/16/14 at 6:59pm
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GTX770 can run most - but not all - games at maximum settings @1080p.

Games you would have to dial back settings from max for a smooth experience would be like Crysis 3, ARMA 3, Tomb Raider, and Metro: Last Light.

R9 290 is more futureproof, averages 22% faster than GTX770 @1080p and has 3GB vs 2GB VRAM.

But no video card is ever really 'futureproof'. They all go out of date.

If I were buying for 1080p right now I'd get R9 280X. Only 2% slower than GTX770 and can be had for as little as $290. Won't max everything @1080p but it's the most bang for the buck IMO.
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This is not about having a restriction of a 2-slot cooler, ebhsimon. This is about the length of the card. The DirectCU II is too long for his case. You must think I'm really stupid! lol Why would I, a member who has been here this long who has this many posts and this many Reputation points, recommend the DirectCU II if a person has enough room in their case to fit the Tri-X? I mean damn, if the Tri-X were not too long for his case, then I'd be talking about how much of a no-brainer it is to get it! I wasn't born yesterday, you know. smile.gif

My bad, I wrongly misinterpreted it as you calling the DC2 be all and end all.
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My bad, I wrongly misinterpreted it as you calling the DC2 be all and end all.

 

Apparently. lol :)

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