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Hi all. So I currenty have an ASRock 970 Extreme3 MB with a Phenom II X6 1100T Processor and have 8GB of DDR3 1333MHz RAM installed. I'm looking to get some faster RAM and found that my MB supports up to DDR3 2100MHz OC. Has anyone gotten this speed RAM for this board? I'm trying to
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"Officially" I don't think Phenom II supports faster ram than 1333. Most people have gotten 1600 but I never heard of much above that. The Phenom II IMC just wasn't that great to be honest.
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Well, I've heard that there is DDR3 2000 and 2100 speed memory that will work with hex-core processors which this is. So that's why I'm trying to find out who sells them and what works. ASRock has 2100 speed memory listed for this board but the listing are for memory that's been discontinued.
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It's not your motherboard that determines what speed of RAM you can use. The memory controller is built into the CPU. AMD states that the Phenom II only supports up to 1333Mhz, however most Thuban cores, like your 1100T, can run 1600Mhz without a hassle. You will have better luck running RAM at that speed with an FX series CPU, but even those only officially support 1866Mhz.

I've ran three different memory kits in my system, Crucial Ballistix Tactical BLT8G3D1608ET3LX0, Team Xtreme TXD38G2400HC10QDC01, Samsung Wonder RAM. I managed to get the Crucial and Team kit above 2000Mhz, but the Samsung kit would not budge above 1956. There was little to no performance gain past 1900Mhz from my experience. You have to overclock the memory controller, or CPU-NB, to the point of killing it just to see the difference. I had the CPU-NB up to 3.5GHz, and it was still not enough to take advantage of the RAM speed.
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I have not played with Thuban in a while, but off the top of my head, I believe that the best speed/timings I could manage at 24/7 safe volts (not bench volts) was around 1933 7-8-7 or so.



Unlike more recent chips, the CPU-NB plays a role in memory performance, and I recall seeing a bigger improvement from pushing that to its max moreso than anything else...
   
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Using a 1055T here with "G.Skill TridentX 2400MHz 2x4GB Kit"

CPU @ 4.1GHz @ 1.48V
Northbridge @ 3.1GHz @ 1.32V
RAM @ 1654MHz @ 7-7-8-17-19 1T @ 1.55V

UNGANGED
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GANGED
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Hmmm, okay thanks for all the info guys. So I guess from reading this, here is my real question. Would I notice any real difference in going from 1333 RAM to 1866 RAM if I *DON'T* overclock. I'm not much of an overclocker so just wanted to know if going to a higher speed with this CPU would really make much difference in gaming. Thanks again. smile.gif
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It looks like far more of a performance increase comes from setting memory to be Unganged.
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Don't think your going to get 1866MHz. Your memory controller won't allow it, I'd be very surprised if it does.

1600MHz is fine with a Phenom II X6.

Biggest gain in memory performance is when NB is set to around 3000MHz with 1600MHz RAM
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I have to disagree with you on the 1600Mhz, but my 1090T has a surprisingly good memory controller. I think I just proved myself wrong about going over 1900Mhz. Memory Write is heavily influenced by the CPU-NB speed, so even with high frequency RAM you are still limited to how fast you can load something into RAM, so your applications may not load faster, however reading things from memory will be noticeably faster.

I only have one stick of RAM that can do all of these timings, so I had to do each test in single channel, technically ganged mode.

I'm sorry if I'm confusing you MgWach.

Single Channel 1656 7-7-7-21


Single Channel 1896 8-8-8-24


Single Channel 2133 9-9-9-24

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