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You guys think delidded the 4790k, and replacing the Tim with CLU would make it worse or better?
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It's definitely better. Only question is if the benefit is small or big.
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Hey $ilent put me down for an i5 tongue.gif
why not get a used 4770k for the same price redface.gif
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Hey $ilent put me down for an i5 tongue.gif

 

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You guys think delidded the 4790k, and replacing the Tim with CLU would make it worse or better?

 

The only time it would make it worse is if you obviously kill the chip by delidding it wrong, or if the chip is a golden CPU and you loose a few hundred mhz if you were going to be putting the cpu under LN2.

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@lilchronic well how much would one of those run me ?? I don't see the point as all I do is game
   
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The only time it would make it worse is if you obviously kill the chip by delidding it wrong, or if the chip is a golden CPU and you loose a few hundred mhz if you were going to be putting the cpu under LN2.

Like my 4770k I delidded it due to Temps, but what I meant was is it a fact that they used much better TIM this time? and is it comparable to CLU?
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Oh, no its not as good as CLU.  I think we are seeing like 10C better temps at best, so its like 80C now where before that was 90C.  But it remains to be seen what happens on water I feel, im not 100% sure if its going to be like water vs air for better temps or if it still will need a delid.

 

Also just looking at all the numerous 4790k reviews listed on OCN from the likes of TH, legitreviews, guru3d etc, they all seem to inexplicably test the temperatures with like the 4770k at 4.4ghz and 1.20v and then the 4790k at 4.8ghz and 1.29v, but with the 4790k only being like 5C hotter.  Why they just cant test both at the same speed and voltage is beyond me.

 

The PCper review makes the most sense:

 

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Interesting stuff. Even though I wasn't able to get higher than 4.7 GHz, the limit does not appear to be temperature on my Core i7-4790K, just crappy luck. Under load with a voltage of 1.36v, temperatures on Devil's Canyon didn't go past 84C. On the other hand, the original Haswell part hit 91C with a lower voltage (1.25v) and higher clock speed (4.8 GHz). 

 

Also notice this from PCper:

 

 

Temperatures during load of Core i7-4790K at 4.7 GHz

 

The above to me says a delid is necessary to remove that huge variance across cores (suggests poor TIM/IHS contact to me).

 

My gut feeling is a delid will be necessary for best temps.


Edited by $ilent - 6/15/14 at 11:45am
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When 4790k come so can already see a influx of 4770ks in the market place... Wonder if mine would sell for more or less? Considering it's Lapped and delidded.
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yeah I think tim1 and need to delid will be luck of draw just like OC...if I had that 26C difference between two loaded cores I would definitely delid, that is some crappy tim1 application.

If I get 4.8ghz with 1.4v and load temps are 76C in prime like guru3d's chip then wont delid, but several other review samples had temps I would delid..
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@lilchronic well how much would one of those run me ?? I don't see the point as all I do is game
i have a 4770k for sale in the market..... also more and more games are using more core's / thread's including BF4 , crysis 3 and pretty much every new game thats coming out.
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