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hi I'm looking for a Z97 mobo, could you help me pick one ? Looking for one with solid VRM cooling (I'm planning ~4,7Ghz 4790k), DDR3 2666 support, 16x/16x would be nice too but it ain't the most important factor here. The limit is around $150. Thx

The number of VRM phases is more important than the actual cooling of the VRM. Having a good VRM phase design will give your CPU cleaner power, and theoretically a better overclock. Asrock boards have pretty beefy VRM phase designs for the price, and are generally good values. Your not going to find X16 X16 PCIe on z97 boards unless you spend big bucks and get +$300 board that has an add on chip to enable the extra PCIe lanes. This isn't really necessary though as PCIe 3.0 will give you enough bandwidth when running x8 x8 mode to get all the GPU scaling you need when running two graphics cards.

The ASUS Maximus VII Hero has a unique feature where there are two small flat heatsinks on the back side of the motherboard for the VRM. Looks a little gimmicky but they actually work. They are very hot to the touch. I have an Antec 1100 V2 case which has a fan mount right over the CPU backplate. Turning on this fan drops the VRM temps from 50 degrees to 43, or even to 39 when the fan is on high. If you have enough room on your case you might consider cutting a fan port into that door for the same purpose if you get this board and are concerned with VRM temps.


it is just a steel backplate ( keep the board straight ) i know people that make it from al/cu and that is a heat sink ! you can also attach heatsinks on the backplates for added cooling but not so far as to make your own
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OMG. So I am in love with Intel.Why have I not switched before hand.
My 4690k runs stock at 1.002v(trying to go lower but havent had a chance to)
I Idle at 28-30c and Load is 56c...

My plan is to try to get it as low as possible on the VID and temps. then overclock from there.

Is stock @ 1.002v decent or can it go lower?

I don't see the point in trying to get voltage as low as possible and then raise it again to OC. If you plan to overclock, just do it. thumb.gif

Does seem fairly low for a 4690k at stock though.

agreed !~
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it is just a steel backplate ( keep the board straight ) i know people that make it from al/cu and that is a heat sink ! you can also attach heatsinks on the backplates for added cooling but not so far as to make your own
agreed !~

It's interesting to know voltages for each multiplier but it's easier to work down from a high multiplier than to go up from a low one.
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it is just a steel backplate ( keep the board straight ) i know people that make it from al/cu and that is a heat sink ! you can also attach heatsinks on the backplates for added cooling but not so far as to make your own
agreed !~

I'm fairly certain it's a heatsink. The fact it drops the temperature of vrm 7 degrees placing a fan over them, that it is positioned behind the vrm, and they are too hot to keep you finger on indicates they are more than just a backplate. I am doing some work on it this weekend I will take a picture of the thermal pads under it.

But yeah if your case doesn't already have a fan there it probably isn't worth adding one unless you just got a hankering to put that hole drill to use.
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My Gigabyte Z87 G1 Sniper M5 is giving 1.15v to cache under auto. Is that a safe voltage? I also have the cache ratio at auto.

I got this reading by using a DMM on the read out points, is there a software that can also read this value ?
Edited by EarlZ - 3/28/15 at 12:12am
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it is just a steel backplate ( keep the board straight ) i know people that make it from al/cu and that is a heat sink ! you can also attach heatsinks on the backplates for added cooling but not so far as to make your own
agreed !~

I'm fairly certain it's a heatsink. The fact it drops the temperature of vrm 7 degrees placing a fan over them, that it is positioned behind the vrm, and they are too hot to keep you finger on indicates they are more than just a backplate. I am doing some work on it this weekend I will take a picture of the thermal pads under it.

But yeah if your case doesn't already have a fan there it probably isn't worth adding one unless you just got a hankering to put that hole drill to use.

They have done this for years. And no it is not a heat sink. It is a flat piece of steel.

There is thermal pad. .. you know why? Thermal pad is a great insulator.

As I stated there are many great heatsinks you can make or add. Well the steel help yes. Well it do the same as copper no
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My Gigabyte Z87 G1 Sniper M5 is giving 1.15v to cache under auto. Is that a safe voltage? I also have the cache ratio at auto.

I got this reading by using a DMM on the read out points, is there a software that can also read this value ?

Try the latest beta of HWiNFO64.
1.150V is safe for the Cache Voltage.
The maximum on air is 1.3V
    
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Try the latest beta of HWiNFO64.
1.150V is safe for the Cache Voltage.
The maximum on air is 1.3V

+1 my 4790k in the paste have 1.19v stock for cash @4ghz
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My Gigabyte Z87 G1 Sniper M5 is giving 1.15v to cache under auto. Is that a safe voltage? I also have the cache ratio at auto.

I got this reading by using a DMM on the read out points, is there a software that can also read this value ?

Try the latest beta of HWiNFO64.
1.150V is safe for the Cache Voltage.
The maximum on air is 1.3V

I use HWiNFO64 as well but I am not sure what is the voltage label for it and I dont see anything thats 1.15v either.

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I use HWiNFO64 as well but I am not sure what is the voltage label for it and I dont see anything thats 1.15v either.

Do you have the latest beta or at least the latest official version of HWiNFO64?

On my SOC Force the Cache Voltage is called "CPU RING Voltage", in the BIOS that is.

Here is a screenshot of a much earlier version of HWiNFO64, from when I was still on my SOC Force a few months ago. The cache voltage is called VRING.
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I'm facing another issue where after making the computer waking up from sleep mode multiple times, I get a 0x101 BSOD, which indicates that: I need to increase CPU voltage. I know my overclock is stable, with Aida64, Intel XTU stress testing, video rendering and playing games for long extended periods of time. I am using a manual CPU voltage. For the mean time I've turned sleep mode off for now.

Any idea what would be causing this issue? I don't suppose it could be my power supply, as it's haswell compatible.

I gotta say, that manual voltage option is OP on Haswell when compared to the previous generations of CPUs such as the intel core 2 quad, where if I'm correct would have the CPU voltage staying at a constant voltage on manual mode.
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