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Try 4.8 at 1.245v. My 4790k is stable there. I actually run it at 1.265 though as thats prime stable.

Your temps are getting high though. My 4.8 1.265v hits 65c max x264. delided with custom loop.

1.26-1.28v is probably more realistic. Agree on temps. 4.8Ghz will be the maximum (assuming < 1.3v) due to temperature alone. Anything above 4.8Ghz will most certainly need > 1.3v which will probably be 90+ celsius without delid (but maybe about 75 delidded).
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does anyone know how to lower the temps on the cputin bec mine is up at like 57C and i kind of want to lower it?
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Try 4.8 at 1.245v. My 4790k is stable there. It may require a little more vcore though 1.265v or even 1.28v. Just start at 1.245v and run x264.

Your temps are getting high though. My 4.8 1.245v hits 65c max x264. delided with custom loop.

Should I just change VID and multi?
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What stress test should I use to stress Vring/Uncore?
Just use x264 or?

I'd think it would be rare for cache not to be in use.
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0x00000124: Core clock is unstable. You need a higher core voltage
0x00000101: Input voltage (Intel Haswell) or Uncore (Intel Haswell)
0x00000050: RAM is unstable. Lower clock or raise memory voltage

I've had BSOD code for Vring/Uncore when doing F@H. As usually away from the PC when the BSOD happens I use this viewer to check.
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I am not very experienced in Overclocking myself, but I have been suggested that a 10 x264 loop in RealBench kinda deems your CPU Stable.
Try do that.

Only my opinion, that may not be enough testing.

I had ran RB in stress mode for an hour, fired up F@H and within an hour had BSOD code 124. I usually use a few programs like say p95 v26.6 / XTU / x264 / RB / F@H , I prefer F@H over synthetic tests as feel something productive is being done. From what I've read about F@H some work units are harder on a system than other units.

Differing people are happy with differing amount of testing.

For me it does my nut in to come back to rig when set to fold and it crashed whilst I was away from it, so testing an OC is many hours.
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Only my opinion, that may not be enough testing.

I had ran RB in stress mode for an hour, fired up F@H and within an hour had BSOD code 124. I usually use a few programs like say p95 v26.6 / XTU / x264 / RB / F@H , I prefer F@H over synthetic tests as feel something productive is being done. From what I've read about F@H some work units are harder on a system than other units.

Differing people are happy with differing amount of testing.

For me it does my nut in to come back to rig when set to fold and it crashed whilst I was away from it, so testing an OC is many hours.

Everyone has their own testing methods tongue.gif For me, with the 10 x264 loop i did, a few days ago, no BsoD on my CPU tongue.gif (so far biggrin.gif)
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Everyone has their own testing methods tongue.gif For me, with the 10 x264 loop i did, a few days ago, no BsoD on my CPU tongue.gif (so far biggrin.gif)

Totally agree and stated in my earlier post tongue.gif .

Only built the i5 rig this Jan 15, I've had my Q6600 since release and OC'd from day 1 it lasted so long as a) good chip b) nice OC c) for several years had stopped gaming as busy with other things.

One thing that comes across is this platform seems to hide instability better, it seems to require more variants of stress testing or I had a really good Q6600 biggrin.gif .

On the original i5 I own I thought I'd got CPU / cache voltages right and then something made it wobble and had to up it again and this was after it had been stress tested for lengthy period.

It felt easier to OC the new i5, probably due to not having to research what I should do with it to get an OC wink.gif .
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Totally agree and stated in my earlier post tongue.gif .

Only built the i5 rig this Jan 15, I've had my Q6600 since release and OC'd from day 1 it lasted so long as a) good chip b) nice OC c) for several years had stopped gaming as busy with other things.

One thing that comes across is this platform seems to hide instability better, it seems to require more variants of stress testing or I had a really good Q6600 biggrin.gif .

On the original i5 I own I thought I'd got CPU / cache voltages right and then something made it wobble and had to up it again and this was after it had been stress tested for lengthy period.

It felt easier to OC the new i5, probably due to not having to research what I should do with it to get an OC wink.gif .

I am pretty much a complete NOOB when it comes to OC biggrin.gif I am doing alot of readings around here but I don't have time to mess around more with my i5 frown.gif Maybe sometime in the near future frown.gif
But as far as I know I can't push a 4.7 it seems frown.gif atm I am at 4.6 with 1.275, rest on default
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That's what I am doing..
I passed last night..
x47 1.219
x40 1.200
VCCIN 1.825
Mem. 9-9-9-24 XMP
Vdroop 100%
Power Savings Disable for testing.

Okay with that said should I try to lower Vring?

Do I have a decent chip??
Edit should I lower VCCIN, I've lowered VID to 1.217.
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Do I have a decent chip??
Edit should I lower VCCIN, I've lowered VID to 1.217.

You can probably lower both input (1.55-1.75) and cache (1.0?) voltage. Doubt it'll make a difference on either temps or longevity though.
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I am pretty much a complete NOOB when it comes to OC biggrin.gif I am doing alot of readings around here but I don't have time to mess around more with my i5 frown.gif Maybe sometime in the near future frown.gif
But as far as I know I can't push a 4.7 it seems frown.gif atm I am at 4.6 with 1.275, rest on default

I'm no pro either wink.gif .

The VII Hero has better VRM then the VII Ranger, mines a 4 phases doubled to 8, yours is true 8 phases. In a review on Bit Tech it states for same CPU used in Ranger review the Hero required less vcore, i7 4770K @ 4.8GHz Hero = 1.27v Ranger = 1.28v. The difference in vcore could be down to the true 8 phases giving cleaner power or just shear coincidence?

On the original i5 4690K I was needing 1.27v to get it to do P95 v28.5 benchmark, temps starting reaching 78c on highest core due to AVX use in that version of P95. I then didn't bother doing further testing, even though for F@H or other tests I may not have reached those temps. This P95 benchmark used to be my quick test method to check stability for an OC, as if it passed this it needed less tuning of voltages for other tests run over longer time frame. Be aware P95 v28.5 places a lot of strain on these cpus from what I've read.

At 4.4GHz CPU not limiting GPU at all and as low voltage / cool running and not seeing any justifiable gain in game benchmarks for 4.5 or 4.6 I stuck with 4.4.

Original i5 did 4.5GHz @ 1.23v , new i5 been doing 17hrs of F@H @ 4.5GHz with 1.035v.

Your bios options are the same as mine IIRC from reviews I read. Besides the info in post 1 of this thread this info Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4

What BSOD code you getting with 4.7Ghz? do you think temps are issue? in the other thread and here your stating rest is all on defaults do check CPU / VRM spread spectrum is disabled.
Info on spread spectrum (Click to show)
FCC certification testing is often completed with the spread-spectrum function enabled in order to reduce the measured emissions to within acceptable legal limits. However, the spread-spectrum functionality may be disabled by the user in some cases. As an example, in the area of personal computers, some BIOS writers include the ability to disable spread-spectrum clock generation as a user setting, thereby defeating the object of the EMI regulations. This might be considered a loophole, but is generally overlooked as long as spread-spectrum is enabled by default.

An ability to disable spread-spectrum clocking in computer systems is considered useful for overclocking, as spread spectrum can lower maximum clock speed achievable due to clock skew.

Edited by gupsterg - 9/21/15 at 2:36pm
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 7 1700 Asus Crosshair VI Hero Sapphire Fury X@1145/545 G.Skill Trident Z 2x 8GB 3200MHz C14 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
Samsung Evo 840 ThermalRight Archon IB-E X2 + 2x TY143 ThermalRight TY-143 2x front case intake Arctic Cooling F12 + 2x F9 as rear case exhaust 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 Pro x64 Asus MG279Q Cherry MX-Board 3.0 Cooler Master V850 
CaseMouse
SilverStone TJ06 Logitech G700S 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690K@4.9GHz 1.255V Asus Maximus VII Ranger Sapphire Fury X@1145/545 HyperX Savage 2x8GB 2400MHz C11 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung Evo 840 TR Archon SB-E X2 Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 x64 Asus MG279Q 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cherry MX-Board 3.0 Cooler Master V850 SilverStone TJ06 Logitech G700S 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 G0 Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Sapphire Toxic HD5850 Corsair Dominator 4GB 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Crucial MX 100 256GB TR TRUE Rev.A Win 7 Pro x64 Cooler Master V650 
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