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Originally Posted by JourneymanMike View Post

Your statement doesn't make sense.

Here's what makes sense The more stress you have - the more heat you get.

Why don't you try Prime 95 and IBT/AVX? They both put more stress on the CPU, More stress = More heat.
Your statement is VERY NOT TRUE.
Prime95 small ffts generates more heat than large ffts but large is more stressful.
OCCT:linpack with avx generates more heat than occct:cpu large data set(any) but occt:cpu is more stressful.
Aida64 generates more heat than realbench,(H264) but RB H264 is more stressful.
XTU bench generates more heat than realbench H264 but RB H264 is more stressful.

More heat =! more stressful, period.

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post #18602 of 22515
Gah i am so tempted to buy another i5 and sell away the cpu that ends up being worse. The cpu's here have finally dropped down in price here and it's starting to be tempting to play the lottery again. But how is the later batches anyway? I know @gupsterg bought a second i5 not too long time ago and was incredibly lucky. I know my i5 is decent, but i still can't help it.
post #18603 of 22515
Okay, in regards to my previous post. The ambient temperature was around 30°C at the time.

Here is a hwinfo-64 screenshot showing the high temperatures and voltages:

Please note that the ambient temperature has dropped a fair bit as it is currently raining / colder.


Edit: Actually I think it's fine for now. I'll try redoing thermal paste anyway.
Edited by benjamen50 - 10/31/15 at 4:42am
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Originally Posted by JourneymanMike View Post

Your statement doesn't make sense.

Here's what makes sense The more stress you have - the more heat you get.

Why don't you try Prime 95 and IBT/AVX? They both put more stress on the CPU, More stress = More heat.
Your statement is VERY NOT TRUE.
Prime95 small ffts generates more heat than large ffts but large is more stressful.
OCCT:linpack with avx generates more heat than occct:cpu large data set(any) but occt:cpu is more stressful.
Aida64 generates more heat than realbench,(H264) but RB H264 is more stressful.
XTU bench generates more heat than realbench H264 but RB H264 is more stressful.

More heat =! more stressful, period.

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Or the other way around, in reverse...

Well, I guess I'm confused then....

I'll have to study some more...

Thanks for your comments...

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Okay, redid thermal paste and here are my results. When I took off the heatsink, I saw that the thermal paste spread nicely (this was before I re-applied it). Same temperatures like before:

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post #18606 of 22515
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Cache is x40 core is x47/x48*testing both

Alright I got my cache ratio voltages down to 1.4 sound good?

Correction.. I meant 1.14.. lulz..

SO you're all stable now @ 4.7 / 4.8 GHz CPU with 4.0GHz cache?
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Gah i am so tempted to buy another i5 and sell away the cpu that ends up being worse. The cpu's here have finally dropped down in price here and it's starting to be tempting to play the lottery again. But how is the later batches anyway? I know @gupsterg bought a second i5 not too long time ago and was incredibly lucky. I know my i5 is decent, but i still can't help it.

I had an average'ish i5 originally IMO and if this one hadn't come in at ridiculous price brand new I'd not have got. I was quite happy with 4.4GHz CPU (1.18v) / 4.1GHz cache as it didn't bottle neck GPU and had sound temps, voltages, etc. The 4.5GHz & 4.6GHz were there as extra for say benching/testing but I couldn't see myself using them 24/7.

I'll be honest I don't upgrade a lot, kept my Q6600 for so long redface.gif.

Fortunately my new i5 is so good I can't see myself again upgrading for a very long while, unless my hand is forced redface.gif. Even being on air the 4.8GHz / 4.9GHz profiles temps, voltage, etc are so good I can use them 24/7 but not really gaining anything IMO until I get perhaps better GPU and upgrade screen. Currently got an Eizo FG2421 so limited to 1080P, even the 290X is probably slightly overkill for this res but does allow longevity at allowing me to play future games for a while before I upgrade GPU/screen.

Both my current GPU/Screen where again such good price and if they hadn't of been would have probably ended up with something else.

AS you can tell I'm a bit tight about my spending habit on my hobby/gaming redface.gif.
Edited by gupsterg - 10/31/15 at 7:13am
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Is cache worth increasing since i have 2400 cl10 ram?

im at 4.0

and 4.7ghz-4.9ghz clock on cpu
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I don't see myself upgrading from this i5 in a while. But i can't resist a good price if i see one. I should really upgrade my screen right now. I was happy with my 290, but i got such a good price on this 980 ti. So right now i'm running a cheap benq 1080p screen with a 980 ti...but i usually play my games upscaled and this i5 is absolutely no 'bottleneck' even with this 980 ti.
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Is cache worth increasing since i have 2400 cl10 ram?

im at 4.0

and 4.7ghz-4.9ghz clock on cpu

I've recently gone to using 4.3GHz cache with my profiles of 4.4-4.9GHz CPU didn't need to adjust any voltages/other settings vs same cpu profiles with 4.1GHz cache, cache voltage of 1.10v biggrin.gif. I use EIST/C-States/Adaptive CPU voltage/ 2400MHz@1T (stock timings@present RAM).

IS it worth it dunno, not had time to compare bench data but from information in the Haswell owners thread post 1 it's not really gonna be anything to post about.

I'm only using it as I'm not having to a) adjust anything to stabilize it b) losing CPU clock ceiling.

And as stated a few posts back / in Haswell owners thread CPU clock is king.
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I don't see myself upgrading from this i5 in a while. But i can't resist a good price if i see one. I should really upgrade my screen right now. I was happy with my 290, but i got such a good price on this 980 ti. So right now i'm running a cheap benq 1080p screen with a 980 ti...but i usually play my games upscaled and this i5 is absolutely no 'bottleneck' even with this 980 ti.

I'm currently of the opinion its more down to just "Silicon lottery" than newer batches = better OC ability. I swear I also recall posts stating Vietnam made CPUs weren't great clockers but doesn't seem that way to me.

I reckon for at least a few gens of GPU the i5 4690K is gonna be just dandy to keep smile.gif.

I'm not too familiar with what would DX12 bring to the table but from some things I've read I think the GPU will be further efficiently used thus perhaps CPU will not be as important as vs DX11. Again not sure as info didn't sink into my brain (LOL).
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SO you're all stable now @ 4.7 / 4.8 GHz CPU with 4.0GHz cache?
I had an average'ish i5 originally IMO and if this one hadn't come in at ridiculous price brand new I'd not have got. I was quite happy with 4.4GHz CPU (1.18v) / 4.1GHz cache as it didn't bottle neck GPU and had sound temps, voltages, etc. The 4.5GHz & 4.6GHz were there as extra for say benching/testing but I couldn't see myself using them 24/7.

I'll be honest I don't upgrade a lot, kept my Q6600 for so long redface.gif.

Fortunately my new i5 is so good I can't see myself again upgrading for a very long while, unless my hand is forced redface.gif. Even being on air the 4.8GHz / 4.9GHz profiles temps, voltage, etc are so good I can use them 24/7 but not really gaining anything IMO until I get perhaps better GPU and upgrade screen. Currently got an Eizo FG2421 so limited to 1080P, even the 290X is probably slightly overkill for this res but does allow longevity at allowing me to play future games for a while before I upgrade GPU/screen.

Both my current GPU/Screen where again such good price and if they hadn't of been would have probably ended up with something else.

AS you can tell I'm a bit tight about my spending habit on my hobby/gaming redface.gif.

Yes i just did a 2 hour run of realbench and i passed.
X48 1.305 VID
X43 1.14 cache voltage
9-9-9-24 2T 1.5 voltage
Max temps is 77℃

With that said, can I enable power savings and use "adaptive" mode?
Edited by v1ral - 10/31/15 at 7:48am
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