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Does anyone have issues with running RealBench 2.34*don't remember the latest version numbers*? I am having issues running it for some reason, specifically the Stress Test portion, I can run the Benchmark thing.

Also is X264 still relevant for stress testing, I have my 4.7Ghz overclock at 1.200 VID with 10 runs on X264.

Settings:
x47 1.200/1.216 VID/ HWInfo
x40 1.150/1.136 VID/HWInfo I don't know why Cache voltages report lower than VID in HWInfo
VCCIN 1.800 VID
XMP 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24 2T
Max Temps 60C

Do these settings seem good/okay?

Latest is 2.43 - I have no problems on Windows 10.

Your VID for the a multiplier of 47 is way to low. It can't be stable. You need 1.24+

It is likely this is why you are having issues with Realbench. What exactly are the symptoms?

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post #19632 of 22447
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Latest is 2.43 - I have no problems on Windows 10.

Your VID for the a multiplier of 47 is way to low. It can't be stable. You need 1.24+

It is likely this is why you are having issues with Realbench. What exactly are the symptoms?

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Shows an error about .exe or something... I tried raising VID to 1.25 and I still get the same error... OCCT works fine though.

Edit"
So you're telling me I need more voltage?

Edit:
So since I couldn't get 1.25 to work with RealBench for 4.7Ghz, I went down x1 on the core. Trying to run it all the way down to x44 I still get the errors.
Edited by v1ral - 1/30/16 at 10:36pm
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It's not that you need more voltage, it's that 4.7@1.20V would be an amazingly good chip and he assumes you made a mistake. It's not unheard of though. If it's stable then it's a good overclock.

I've never really bothered with realbench. Mostly I use x264 with a bit of p95.
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It's not that you need more voltage, it's that 4.7@1.20V would be an amazingly good chip and he assumes you made a mistake. It's not unheard of though. If it's stable then it's a good overclock.

I've never really bothered with realbench. Mostly I use x264 with a bit of p95.

I have gone down to 1.25 for x44 and still nothing, what I notice though is I can use 4-8 Gig of memory 16 gigs throws the errors...
Is my Ram just not working?
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I have gone down to 1.25 for x44 and still nothing, what I notice though is I can use 4-8 Gig of memory 16 gigs throws the errors...
Is my Ram just not working?

You have 16GB of memory. The OS needs a 1-2GB minimum to run. So you have 14 or so GB free. When you tell realbench to use 16GB, it will fail because you only have 14 or so free.

It would really help if you posted exactly what the errors say. If you ask for too much memory, it should display that you don't have enough at the bottom of the Real bench window.
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Edited by GeneO - 1/30/16 at 11:45pm
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Thanks thumb.gif

Looks like yours is a better overclocker than mine. I need 1.290v Vcore for stable 4.7Ghz. The rest though is all on Auto. I am sometimes afraid I blow up my mainboard with this overclock since the max I can enter is 1.299v Vcore. Board wont go above it. However. I see in the Bios that the actual load goes up to 1.320v Vcore. lol. Lets hope I don't blow it up. I tried to get a MSI Z97 Mainboard here in China where I live. I want to stick with MSI but all of them were out of stock everywhere. From the GAMING 3 to the GAMING 9 ACK. rolleyes.gif Of course, I could have bought a Z170 Board with a Skylake CPU but that would have been totally pathetic and a waste of money since there is no need to upgrade. The 4790K, especially when overclocked, is still a beast of a CPU for the upcoming years depending on what Intel comes out with next. Only little downside is the memory. I got those beautiful G.Skill Trident X 2400 which are correctly recognized by my Board with X.M.P but it still locks them at 1600, although I have nice low manual timings of 9-8-8 1T. biggrin.gif

You are welcome, and thank you, as well!

The only reason I posted my results was because your temperatures with your new AIO seemed a bit high to me. Of course, I do not know your ambient temperature during your tests, neither if your system's fans, all of them, were running at their full speed. I run two tests under the exact same settings, and you can observe the 3 degrees Celsius difference when my CPU cooler's fans spun approx. 1000 RPM lower. If it is not a big deal for you, at some point in time, run the x264 version 2 using HWiNFO64 - in which all voltages + temps will be clearly visible, and state your ambient temp, too.
    
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You are welcome, and thank you, as well!

The only reason I posted my results was because your temperatures with your new AIO seemed a bit high to me. Of course, I do not know your ambient temperature during your tests, neither if your system's fans, all of them, were running at their full speed. I run two tests under the exact same settings, and you can observe the 3 degrees Celsius difference when my CPU cooler's fans spun approx. 1000 RPM lower. If it is not a big deal for you, at some point in time, run the x264 version 2 using HWiNFO64 - in which all voltages + temps will be clearly visible, and state your ambient temp, too.

Hey, yeah well. I don't have the x264 test yet. where can I find it? The XTU Benchmark puts a lot of stress on the CPU though. I did run AIDA 64 stress test for a couple of minutes (Ambient Temp around 20 degrees). And although I had a spark of 70 degrees, no idea where that came from, temps seems to be fine (Don't forget, I have to put more Vcore into my Chip than you do for 4.7 Ghz) . As you can see, I have connected my H110 Fans to the mainboard directly (PWM) since I dont have a second USB Header so I cannot use the Link software. I have 2 H110 Fans connected to CPU 1 and 2 on the mainboard. I have 2 Noctua PWM 12 cm fans as case fans (PWM controlled by mainboard) plus another front original Fractal Design fan (3 pin only). All my fans are set in the Bios to go at max once temperatures reaches 60 degrees (maybe that's why the 70 degrees spike). redface.gif I'm still afraid I'm gonna blow my mainboard up with those voltages. As you can see, the package on HWInfo reaches 1.320v max. My board clocks out at manual 1.299v. I hope it can take it though. biggrin.gif Guess I'm gonna find out what "Military Class 4" is all about biggrin.gif


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Ok, so I just switched coolers from a 120mm radiator corsair to a 240mm Swiftech H220 x2 Prestige (Noise Blocker eLoop Fans). I can sustain 4.9 ghz on 1.299 V at the current moment, and my max temps under xtu bench mark hit 76. There is definitely thermal headroom, should get greater once I add my case fans back to normal amounts and the thermal paste settles. . . Question is this.

I can post at 5.0ghz with 1.315 v and finish a benchmark in firestrike extreme / ultra - however, if I try and run Cinebench / realbench tests, it crashes with the low voltage error. I have not attempted to push my vCore past the 1.32 limit after reading some of the voltage limits that folks hit, and wanting to ensure the longevity of my processor. . . How dangerous is it to approach the 1.35V mark in regards to the life span of the devils canyon? Has any more information surfaced regarding this. @ 1.35 I should have no issues being stable at 5.0 ghz, but it just feels like a high voltage.

This, of course, would not be my 24/7 clocks - those are reserved for 4.7ghz @ 1.21V which maxes around 61 C under extreme stress (encoding in handbrake).

Thoughts?
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Ok, so I just switched coolers from a 120mm radiator corsair to a 240mm Swiftech H220 x2 Prestige (Noise Blocker eLoop Fans). I can sustain 4.9 ghz on 1.299 V at the current moment, and my max temps under xtu bench mark hit 76. There is definitely thermal headroom, should get greater once I add my case fans back to normal amounts and the thermal paste settles. . . Question is this.

I can post at 5.0ghz with 1.315 v and finish a benchmark in firestrike extreme / ultra - however, if I try and run Cinebench / realbench tests, it crashes with the low voltage error. I have not attempted to push my vCore past the 1.32 limit after reading some of the voltage limits that folks hit, and wanting to ensure the longevity of my processor. . . How dangerous is it to approach the 1.35V mark in regards to the life span of the devils canyon? Has any more information surfaced regarding this. @ 1.35 I should have no issues being stable at 5.0 ghz, but it just feels like a high voltage.

This, of course, would not be my 24/7 clocks - those are reserved for 4.7ghz @ 1.21V which maxes around 61 C under extreme stress (encoding in handbrake).

Thoughts?

You got a Z97 Board, so you are pretty good to go up to the 1.4v something voltage if you cooling does allow it. You got 4.9 @ 1.299 which is is as I would say awesome. I got 4.7 @ 1.290 .
Regarding your question. The Devil's Canyon wont bother much about 1.35v as long as you keep its head cool biggrin.gif Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm still in training redface.gif
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not worried so much about immediate issues, more so long term. High temps controlled, you still have to worry about the longevity of the chip itself at high voltages.
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