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Originally Posted by aerotracks View Post

Sure it's not something else? x40 at 1.15V shouldn't fail, most chips do x42-x45 at that voltage.

Are you referring to the Cache ratio, man?

IF so, I'm really surprised! In my system, in all my o/c attempts, I was always setting Cache at 4.4 GHz and Cache V = 1.250V in the BIOS. Recently, after lowering my CPU Input V to 1.55V in the BIOS - from 1.9V and higher - I keep my cache V to 1.2V Adaptive, raising up to 1.216V or more during testing, depending from the O/C profile I use. In all my profiles I have it this way. I have four profiles: x47, x48, x49 on all 4 cores and a per-core o/c x50 x50 x49 x49.

Should I try lowering the Cache V, you think? I strongly believe it will fail...

Also note please, that I am using a negative offset on SA (-0.150) and a 0.03 on both Digital and Analog IO. I followed these Splave's suggestions in order to be able to lower my Vccin at 1.55V.
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post #19722 of 22170
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Are you referring to the Cache ratio, man?

IF so, I'm really surprised! In my system, in all my o/c attempts, I was always setting Cache at 4.4 GHz and Cache V = 1.250V in the BIOS. Recently, after lowering my CPU Input V to 1.55V in the BIOS - from 1.9V and higher - I keep my cache V to 1.2V Adaptive, raising up to 1.216V or more during testing, depending from the O/C profile I use. In all my profiles I have it this way. I have four profiles: x47, x48, x49 on all 4 cores and a per-core o/c x50 x50 x49 x49.

Should I try lowering the Cache V, you think? I strongly believe it will fail...

Also note please, that I am using a negative offset on SA (-0.150) and a 0.03 on both Digital and Analog IO. I followed these Splave's suggestions in order to be able to lower my Vccin at 1.55V.

That's a really low VCCIN voltage. Can you link to Splave's posts about it? I remember reading about this a long time ago, but I had a 4770K so didn't try it. Now, I have a 4790k and would be interested in lowering my 1.85v VCCIN.
 
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That's a really low VCCIN voltage. Can you link to Splave's posts about it? I remember reading about this a long time ago, but I had a 4770K so didn't try it. Now, I have a 4790k and would be interested in lowering my 1.85v VCCIN.

Hi,

I have not kept a note of the exact post from Splave I have read this suggestion. I just read it, applied it, it worked for me, so all good. However, I just did a quick search and I found this. Please note that Splave, from what I recall, was also suggesting lower System Agent by at least -0.1 and DIO / AIO respectively (in order to achieve a low Vccin). Not all chips accept it + I am using the ASRock Z97 OC Formula. You can always try it though, as I will try a lower Cache V, as well.

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Hi,

I have not kept a note of the exact post from Splave I have read this suggestion. I just read it, applied it, it worked for me, so all good. However, I just did a quick search and I found this. Please note that Splave, from what I recall, was also suggesting lower System Agent by at least -0.1 and DIO / AIO respectively (in order to achieve a low Vccin). Not all chips accept it + I am using the ASRock Z97 OC Formula. You can always try it though, as I will try a lower Cache V, as well.

Good Luck! thumb.gif

Will definitely try this out. +rep!
 
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I have tried lowering my Cache Voltage on my 4.7 GHz profile. Unfortunately, I had no luck.

Initially, I've set it to 4.4 GHz at 1.150V Override. The x264 V2.06 froze. Then I've set it at 1.160V. Fifty seconds before completing loop 5 I got a BSOD. So, I gave up.

I did not have time to confirm this yet, but I (believe I) can safely assume that lowering the Cache V has no significant effect, and I'll dare to say no real meaning, in my setup. During stress testing at 1.160V my Core Max (HWiNFO64) reached around 52C. I run the same test with my default 1.2V Adaptive Cache, reaching 1.216V during stressing, and my temps remained the same! No screenshots this time, sorry, but when I'll find the time I'll retest this.

So, I will keep my o/c profiles as they are since lowering the Cache voltage presents no real benefit for me.

(Note: I suppose I could starve it! Setting the Adaptive of this at 1.180V or even 1.170V, for example. No meaning in this)

Thank you.

PS: @aerotracks, any ideas - comments? smile.gif
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post #19726 of 22170
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I have tried lowering my Cache Voltage on my 4.7 GHz profile. Unfortunately, I had no luck.

Initially, I've set it to 4.4 GHz at 1.150V Override. The x264 V2.06 froze. Then I've set it at 1.160V. Fifty seconds before completing loop 5 I got a BSOD. So, I gave up.

I did not have time to confirm this yet, but I (believe I) can safely assume that lowering the Cache V has no significant effect, and I'll dare to say no real meaning, in my setup. During stress testing at 1.160V my Core Max (HWiNFO64) reached around 52C. I run the same test with my default 1.2V Adaptive Cache, reaching 1.216V during stressing, and my temps remained the same! No screenshots this time, sorry, but when I'll find the time I'll retest this.

So, I will keep my o/c profiles as they are since lowering the Cache voltage presents no real benefit for me.

(Note: I suppose I could starve it! Setting the Adaptive of this at 1.180V or even 1.170V, for example. No meaning in this)

Thank you.

PS: @aerotracks, any ideas - comments? smile.gif
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What are your bios settings, VCCIN and other stuff?

I'll post them for consistency, even though I must have left a screenshot of this profile, somewhere in this thread.

ASRock Z97 OC Formula.

Core x47, cache x44

CPU Input V = 1.55V
LLC = Level 1
VCore = 1.2V, Adaptive in the BIOS. Max VCore = 1.264V under the x264 V2.06 test, always with the latest available binaries.
Cache V = 1.2V Adaptive. Max Cache = 1.216V under the same test
System Agent Offset = -0.150V
Digital IO = +0.03
Analog IO = +0.03
DRAM V = 1.6V

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This is my 24/7 oc profile. I am trying to regularly use my other ones, though.
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I'll post them for consistency, even though I must have left a screenshot of this profile, somewhere in this thread.

ASRock Z97 OC Formula.

Core x47, cache x44

CPU Input V = 1.55V
LLC = Level 1
VCore = 1.2V, Adaptive in the BIOS. Max VCore = 1.264V under the x264 V2.06 test, always with the latest available binaries.
Cache V = 1.2V Adaptive. Max Cache = 1.216V under the same test
System Agent Offset = -0.150V
Digital IO = +0.03
Analog IO = +0.03
DRAM V = 1.6V

RAM: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

This is my 24/7 oc profile. I am trying to regularly use my other ones, though.
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Do you do your stress testing with adaptive??

Initially, no. Then I stress with Adaptive, as well.
Edited by LostParticle - 2/4/16 at 9:21am
    
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Intel Core i7-4790K ASRock Z97 OC Formula; ASUS MAXIMUS VII HERO; G... Gigabyte GV-N66TOC-2GD G.SKILL F3-1866C8D-16GTX 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 850 EVO 250 GB SanDisk Extreme Pro 240GB Samsung 840 PRO 128GB Plextor PX-128M5S 128GB 
Hard DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
WD 1002FAEX 1TB Caviar BLACK (in enclosure) Noctua NH-D15S Corsair H110 2 x Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000/3000 PWM ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Case Fan: 1 x Noctua NF-A14 PWM (rear, exhaust) Case Fan: Noctua NF-S12A PWM (front, intake) Case Fans: 2 x Noctua NF-S12A FLX (front, intake) Windows 10 Pro 64 bit 
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Windows 10 TP KDE Neon Developer Stable HP ZR2440w Dell U2311H 
KeyboardPowerCaseAudio
Microsoft Ergonomic keyboard 4000 Corsair AX760 (Platinum); EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 Corsair Air 540 Asus Xonar Essence STX II 
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can i get better then this if yes then please guide
Asus Z97 Pro Gamer board and Gskill Trident x 2666mhz rams 8GB and Corsair H110 cooler
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1.252 and 4.7Ghz currently stable
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